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Radioclare’s tac log 2015 (*jäŋe/*ledús) | ||
Tags: Macedonian | Serbian | Serbo-Croatian | Croatian | Esperanto | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | ||
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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4576 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 233 of 292 28 June 2015 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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Inspired by Serpent, who seems to have made really good progress with 'Budva' recently, I have
watched four episodes over the course of the weekend so far. I am also inspired by the desire to get another star in the Super Challenge; after those four episodes I'm on 121.8 'films', so will hopefully get up to 125 within the next couple of weeks. Any thoughts of completing a double challenge are now a distant dream. Serpent needs to not read the rest of this post as there may be Budva spoilers! One of the long-running storylines in series 3 involving a really evil drug dealer has now come to a head, when he was shot dead by a corrupt police officer formerly in his pay. It seems weird to me what seems to be acceptable to show on screen in 'Budva' and what isn't; strong language, gratuitous violence and casually walking round with guns are all absolutely fine, but there seems to be a strict taboo around showing sex/nudity. I thought the scene with the shooting was pretty violent (no need to show the bullet holes - eeek!) and also the guy got shot within a few metres of his small daughter, which was perhaps also a bit unnecessary. More concerning though was the fact that the corrupt police officer shot him, then took another gun, wiped his finger prints off it, stuck it in the dead man's hand and fired a shot from it to make it look like the drug dealer had shot first and he'd killed him in self defence. I imagined the non-corrupt police would be able to see straight through this when they arrived on the scene (they were in police cars just outside the building!) but seemingly they didn't and the corrupt police officer is now a hero. I sincerely hope I never have any involvement with the Montenegrin police! Another storyline which is just coming to a head involved one of the characters taking his girlfriend back to the village where he is from to meet his aunt and mother. The village is by Lake Skadar, so there were some beautiful shots of the scenery. I'd love to know whereabouts on the lake they filmed, but I couldn't catch the name of any places. I went to Lake Skadar last summer but my own trip wasn't highly successful as the entire town I went to (Virpazar) seemed to be set up to scam tourists. I wouldn't recommend it! Once again in this episode you could see the importance of being someone's "kum" (often translated as best man but seems to have a lot more significance than in English-speaking countries; if you're someone's kum then you seem to be bound to them for life). The girl who was going to Skadar to meet her boyfriend's family is an orphan and the boyfriend's mother wasn't very satisfied by her lack of family connections. In the end they had to get the character who was her deceased father's "kum" to come and meet the boyfriend's family too and promise that she was like a daughter to him and that he would give her away at her wedding. That seemed to solve all the problems! Another language point which caught my attention during the episodes I watched yesterday was how instead of say "nisam", "nismo" etc, it often sounds like the characters are saying "nijesam", "nijesmo" etc. I tried looking it up and it seems like this might be another specifically Montenegrin thing. It actually caused confusion in one of the episodes I watched because one of the character said "Nijesmo" and the other character misheard it as "jesmo"; if he'd just said "nismo" it probably would have been clearer. What else? I thought I was doing pretty well at understanding everything and then in the final episode I watched last night there was a scene which contained some information that may be crucial to understanding the main plot of the entire series... and I failed to get more than a few words of it :'( I've relistened to the scene more than 20 times this morning as loud as I possibly can and tried to write down all the words I could hear. I've now managed to understand the gist; the character was saying he was washed up on this beach, presumably after some sort of battle because it sounds like he was fighting two men and tried to strangle one of them, but the other one had a pistol. One bullet went in his side and just missed some sort of important artery by a few milimetres, while a second bullet broke his collar bone. He fell into the sea and came round on the sand, where he was found by a local resident. I think he then says he was resurrected for the first time there on that sand, and the second time when he met the woman he's about to propose to.... So I've probably understood about 50% of his speech now. But there are still numerous words which I either can't make out or can't find what I think(!) I've heard in a dictionary, so I'm not entirely sure why he was fighting these people in the sea in the first place. If anyone else wants to have a go at understanding (but not Serpent until she's watched another 30 episodes!!), the link is here. I think part of the problem for me is that he's speaking with emotion, so seems to be swallowing some of the words, and the other problem is that the vocabulary seems more varied than what they usually use in 'Budva' so a lot of the words are new to me. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| nikolic993 Diglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 3773 days ago 106 posts - 205 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English Studies: Italian, Mandarin, Romanian, Persian | Message 234 of 292 28 June 2015 at 4:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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SPOILER ALERT!!!
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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4576 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 235 of 292 28 June 2015 at 4:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Budva spoiler alert!
Thank you nikolić, that is sooooooo helpful :) :) :) :) :) The phrases I could hear but couldn't understand at all were: zatek'o na gliseru džukele prsluk od kevlara And out of the entire phrase "U'vatim jednog za grkljan" the only bit I managed to catch was "grk" :D So I have learned that a "gliser" is some sort of motorboat. "Prsluk" looks like a waistcoat and "kevlar" seems to be some sort of fibre, so I'm guessing "prsluk od kevlara" is a bullet-proof jacket. "Džukele" looks like they might be some sort of mongrel dog, so I'm guessing it's a derogatory term for the two men he was fighting. Still no idea why he was fighting two men in the middle of the sea :D But the whole scene makes so much more sense to me now than it did last night which is fantastic :) :) 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4576 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 236 of 292 28 June 2015 at 9:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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This post doesn't have any Budva spoilers in it :)
At lunchtime today my boyfriend and I listened to the first Pimsleur Lithuanian lesson together. Wow, Lithuanian is difficult! I tend to complain about Pimsleur a lot when I use it, but this is the first time that my complaint has been that it's going too fast :D I'm ashamed that by the end of lesson 1 I haven't even mastered how to say that I'm an American man :( Today has been one of those beautiful weekend days when I didn't have any obligations, so I've been able to make some good progress with Glossika. I played the A files for the first 100 sentences and used them as dictation to write out the sentences. The pace was a little fast for me (I'm not sure whether the gaps are supposed to be long enough to write the sentences in, but I'm too impatient to keep pausing!). I've already found my favourite sentences of the entire course: 90. To je moje sedište. 91. Ne, nije. I know this isn't a course where the sentences vary depending on which language you're studying, but I honestly couldn't think of a better pair of sentences for a Serbian course :D I've also tried to get back into the Output Challenge and written 912 words about my typical day (spoiler - it's not very exciting!). Waiting for that to get corrected at lang-8 at the moment, but assuming the word count doesn't change drastically I will be at 5,617 words for the Output Challenge. Edited by Radioclare on 28 June 2015 at 9:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| rdearman Senior Member United Kingdom rdearman.orgRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5229 days ago 881 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French, Mandarin | Message 237 of 292 28 June 2015 at 9:49pm | IP Logged | ||
Yay! Go Girl! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6590 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 238 of 292 28 June 2015 at 11:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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My progress? What where? :)))
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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4576 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 239 of 292 28 June 2015 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well when I looked at the SC stats page the other day, I realised that you'd watched an
impressive 7 episodes of 'Budva' during June, whereas before Friday I'd watched a rather pathetic 1 episode. So I felt like I ought to make more effort :D 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6590 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 240 of 292 29 June 2015 at 12:05am | IP Logged | ||
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Aww haha :) Glad to provide some competition then :) I would totally be less motivated if I couldn't ask you to explain stuff :)
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