Alvinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 6232 days ago 828 posts - 832 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish
| Message 17 of 67 05 November 2008 at 6:23am | IP Logged |
most Brazilian footballers who spend a long time in Europe really don't speak very well.....I recall when Roberto Carlos played for Real Madrid, his Spanish....no comments.....I remind people that he lived in Spain for over ten years......there are other examples...
the successful exceptions have been Kaka in Milan, Rai in France and Leonardo who played for several clubs in Europe throughout his career and mastered at least 4 languages....
Pele's English pronounciation....horrible!......the Spaniards had to bear one Brazilian poser and snobbish coach called Vanderlei Luxemburgo who believed Spanish was as easy as doing the math with 2 + 2 and then during a press conference started tripping off the tongue by speaking a harsh "portuƱol"...obviously many people here as well as some journalists laughed at him at that time..arrgggghhh
Edited by Alvinho on 05 November 2008 at 6:33am
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Athlander Newbie United Kingdom greynorth.net Joined 5855 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Dutch, German
| Message 18 of 67 12 November 2008 at 2:49pm | IP Logged |
Leopejo wrote:
Football terminology is quite limited. The one on the field you learn in one (training, not language learning) session. The player interviews are the same everywhere, you just need to learn: "we played well against a strong team. We had more chances than them, but were unlucky. Our team's policy is not to comment on the referee, but it seemed a clear penalty to me. We are confident for the next game".
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The English footballer Gary Lineker mentioned this when he was asked how he learned Spanish when he joined Barcelona. As well as the basics, he also began with stock phrases like the ones you mentioned above. He mentioned also that he had private tutors for Spanish (and later Japanese).
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Liface Triglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Lif Joined 5856 days ago 150 posts - 237 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Dutch, French
| Message 19 of 67 12 November 2008 at 7:53pm | IP Logged |
I love this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTUTSaSX3fE
http://www.eyep-tv.de/boulevard/11-fragen/gregg-berhalter-11 -fragen---11-antworten.html
Gregg Berhalter speaking German with no trace of a German accent. Oh well, he probably has other things to do than learn the language.
This is stunning, Moritz Voltz, a German playing for Fulham.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWHpJa9m29M
Speaks incredibleĀ English.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLZAQ2RC2q8
Gary Lineker speaking a bit of Spanish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0khgJctr5s
Guus Hiddink speaking German
Edited by Liface on 12 November 2008 at 8:12pm
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Siberiano Tetraglot Senior Member Russian Federation one-giant-leap.Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6491 days ago 465 posts - 696 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, ItalianC1, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Serbian
| Message 20 of 67 13 November 2008 at 3:25am | IP Logged |
Shevchenko speaking Italian - notable Slavic accent! :) Speaks decently, though the active vocabulary could be larger.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h0gDhhRT9GA&feature=related
Tennis star Elena Dementieva speaks french - don't know how well.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ua1PW0ZnaBE
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Liface Triglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Lif Joined 5856 days ago 150 posts - 237 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Dutch, French
| Message 21 of 67 01 December 2008 at 3:53am | IP Logged |
Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3kwV866Fs0
Almost native accent after 7 years in the USA.
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JonB Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6263 days ago 209 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Dutch, Greek
| Message 22 of 67 16 December 2008 at 11:04am | IP Logged |
It's always easy to attack people like Beckham (who is, after all, a footballer and not a linguist!)
But still, after FOUR WHOLE YEARS in Spain (and, of course, being able to hire the most expensive private tutors that money can buy) I just can't help feeling that he should have been able to do a little better than this...
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Jimmymac Senior Member United Kingdom strange-lands.com/le Joined 6151 days ago 276 posts - 362 votes Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, French
| Message 23 of 67 17 December 2008 at 10:32am | IP Logged |
That was terrible. Four years and thats the best he can do. He even used English instead of Spanish when he said 'it has been'.
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 24 of 67 18 December 2008 at 5:52pm | IP Logged |
Leopejo wrote:
Football terminology is quite limited. The one on the field you learn in one (training, not language learning) session. The player interviews are the same everywhere, you just need to learn: "we played well against a strong team. We had more chances than them, but were unlucky. Our team's policy is not to comment on the referee, but it seemed a clear penalty to me. We are confident for the next game". |
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:DDDDD
As for the field terminology though, I've read that Pavlyuchenko's (the Russian guy playing for Tottenham) interpreter has to go with him to the training sessions :-D or at least it was so a couple of months ago, I do hope his English has improved ever since - when I read about his struggling with basic English (after almost 4 months in the UK), it makes me embarrassed that he's my favourite player! :D
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