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eddiedonovan
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 Message 1 of 10
25 August 2005 at 12:07am | IP Logged 
To all participants of this forum:

Thank you for making this resource available. Asides from some material on Wikipedia this is the only place on within the accesssbile public domain where one can research the "ployglot" legacy throughout the human experience.

I have enjoyed reading the insights of many polyglots and non polyglots. The research on Mezzofanti as well as historical polyglots seems very interesting at first glance.

I would be happy to correspond with anybody with my same interest in polyglottery. Please write me. My email is eddiedonovan@hotmail.com . Alternatively, I would be honored if you signed my guestbook at http://www.freegb.net/gbook.cgi?101123 .

If there is such a thing I would like to become more involved with whatever the polyglot society of the world is. I am sure variety of interesting seminars and other cultural gathering could be organized. I also would love to get feedback from other language enthusiasts for I greatly value the opportunity to learn from the insights of other people with similar passions.



Edited by eddiedonovan on 16 January 2010 at 6:31am

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sapedro
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 Message 2 of 10
25 August 2005 at 6:42am | IP Logged 
In fact, Mirandese is NOT Portuguese. It's a language very close to Asturian.

And Galician is NOT Spanish. It's closer to Portuguese, in fact.
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eddiedonovan
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 Message 3 of 10
25 August 2005 at 7:12am | IP Logged 
Obrigado Pedro.

In no way did I state that Mirandese is Portuguese or that Galician is Spanish. I just stated that they are romance languages that are closely related to Spanish and Portuguese. I am not interested in debating which is closer to what but if you want to read some articles that offer a balanced starting point on the issue please feel free to read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirandese
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Al-Malik
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 Message 4 of 10
25 August 2005 at 8:12am | IP Logged 
First of all, welcome to the forum! I am looking forward to reading your posts!

eddiedonovan wrote:
I studied Persian-Farsi at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California during a one-year full-time intensive course during 2004-2005. I received and Associates of Science Degree in Persian-Farsi in 2005. This language is the first non-Western language that I have attempted to learn. Regardless of what my test scores may say, I cannot and possibly may never be able to read and write the language with the ease and speed I have grown accustomed to with Indo-European languages.


Learning Persian is quite an impressive achievement, but it still belongs to the Indo-European language family. Although, of course, it has to be admitted that lots of the vocabulary is of Arabic origin, and it may thus seem less Indo-European than other languages.

Also, you mention in your post that you are acquainted with Pashto. Could you comment on the level you have achieved in this language, and also on how you went about learning this language?
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 Message 5 of 10
25 August 2005 at 9:13am | IP Logged 
Eddie, welcome to the forum!

This is indeed a very impressive commitment to language learning and I am glad to hear that you like our forum.

I think it's a really good idea to post your language test ratings for each language so that people can see that these are serious and documented claims about each language. I did not understand the purpose of the list of the various Romance and Germanic regional languages and dialects. Do you also speak these languages fluently, or do you intend to add them to your already most impressive resume? In any case, congratulations for your achievement so far. I guess we'll set up a thread about you in the Polyglot room soon!

Do you work at the DLI in Monterrey?
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czech
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25 August 2005 at 2:41pm | IP Logged 
Please post some details about the courses you took at the DLI, I'm very interested. Did they involve tapes? How was the method of teaching? How long did it take?
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victor
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 Message 7 of 10
25 August 2005 at 8:33pm | IP Logged 
Eddie, welcome to our discussion forum! You list sounds very impressive. I am wondering what specific ways did you take to help you learn languages that are not so common. What do you feel are necessary tools to learn a foreign language?

Do you study the languages in depth or do you enjoy speaking a variety of languages at an intermdiate-advanced level?

I look forward to yours posts and your insight on this forum.
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eddiedonovan
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 Message 8 of 10
26 August 2005 at 12:41am | IP Logged 
Response to Al-Malik:

Thank you for your comments regarding Persian-Farsi and Pashto and for your encouraging words.

You are correct in respect to your observations regarding Farsi and Pashto. Pashto is one of the languages that I have never tested but that is closely related to languages where I have documented varying levels of proficiency. There is enough of a Persian influence in Pashto where I can have a foothold in the language enough to navigate myself through simple conversations. Over the past year I have navigated the web in an attempt to find sample writings in Pashto. I am at the beginning stages of becoming less ignorant about this language. I am grateful to have been exposed to Persian-Farsi and to Persian-Dari. If I were to test via the DLPT I doubt that I would score more than a 1+. Not impressive but a start nonetheless.

It seems you may have a background in the languages of the region. Can you elaborate or point me to a posting about yourself if possible?



Response to Administrator:

I appreciate your gracious welcome. Thank you for making this forum possible.

As mentioned in my earlier posting, I attempt to gain proficiency in languages primarily through conversations with natives although this requires me to "butcher" the languages in the process. That may be the case with all the languages that I listed that are closely related to Italian, Spanish, French, and Portuguese. I can speak the latter very well for a foreigner. I can also communicate in their derivative or hybrid languages albeit with a very different accent and occasional misgivings regarding proper vocabulary usage. If I were to live in the regions where these languages are spoken (Sicilian - Neopolitan - Sardinian - Corsican - Romansh - Creole - Creole Patois - French Patois - Norman - Mirandese - Papiamentu - Portunol - Castilian - Catalan - Galician - Occitan) I would have the opportunity to become more sensitive to the local lexical and accent variations so as to communicate while "butchering" the languages to a lesser degree.

I do not work at DLI but I did go there for about a year and a half and graduated with an AS in Persian-Farsi. I am grateful for having had that opportunity since it was a truly wonderful experience.

To the best of your knowledge is this is the only forum on the web that deals with the "polyglot" phenomena?



Response to Czech:

In my opinion the best material on the web recounting one's DLI experience is here:

http://www.geocities.com/Ratspaw_Unlimited/korean.linguist.h tml

I sometimes seem as a critic of traditional language teaching. Please do not think that. I am supportive of any methodology one successfully uses to reduce their ignorance regarding other languages. That said the instruction at DLI was superb. The fact that the students there have no choice but to learn the language they study as best as they can in order to work in their field makes a big difference in motivation and learning approach. The teachers are almost always natives. They use a combination reading, speaking, writing, and a cultural studies approach. They do make use of tapes but also TV programs, movies, radio broadcasts, etc. The courses are 8 hours a day plus study time and are very intense and fast paced. I had a good experience in part because the teachers were dynamic in that they tried to adapt the coursework to suit individual learning styles as much as possible. They also tried to make it fun. My approach that emphasizes speaking first despite its non-conventional nature was supported by the faculty.



Response to Victor:

Thank you for your encouragement.

I think that one must make use of whatever tools are available for learning a language. That is why in my life language learning has been a combined result of opportunities (travel, school, social life, etc.) and intellectual curiosity spurred on by personal motivation.

I prefer to attempt to speak languages and hope that by doing so repeatedly while trying to organize my thought cohesively that over time I can pick up the nuances necessary to progress to higher levels of speaking proficiency. I do not particularly enjoy studying languages for their own sake but I do enjoy the learning process.

I wish you all the best.



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