JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6121 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 9 of 65 07 August 2009 at 9:12pm | IP Logged |
lewisw wrote:
The difference between modern and ancient Greek is comparable to the difference between Latin and Italian. Knowing one certainly helps learning the other, but not enough to make it worthwhile sitting down to learn one solely for that purpose. |
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Interesting and helpful analogy. I wonder which are closer, Italian and Latin or Ancient Greek and Modern Greek?
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skhval Newbie United States Joined 5599 days ago 12 posts - 12 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 10 of 65 09 August 2009 at 4:32am | IP Logged |
I think Modern Greek is closer to Ancient Greek than Romance languages to Latin. I guess no other language is more distant to its older form than, to say, modern English to Old English (Anglo-Saxon)
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Aras Groupie United States Joined 6757 days ago 76 posts - 83 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Ancient Greek
| Message 11 of 65 17 August 2009 at 2:13pm | IP Logged |
One could argue that the vocabulary of Old English in relation to Modern English isn't in the same category of linguistic evolution (if that's the right term) as that of Vulgar Latin's to Italian and other Romance tongues - and that of Koine Greek to Medieval and then Modern Greek. Chiefly, this is due to the large Romantic base of the vocabulary of the Germanic Modern English, as opposed to the Romantic vocabulary base of the Romance languages and the Ancient Greek to Modern Greek.
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NikolGr Newbie Greece myspace.com/hnikoleiRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5573 days ago 19 posts - 23 votes Studies: English*
| Message 12 of 65 21 August 2009 at 5:27pm | IP Logged |
You cannot imagine how difficult is to learn Ancient Greek!We used to learn at school,and it was the most difficult lesson of all!
But if you really want to know how to speak Ancient Greek then go for it.Although Modern Greek is the one everyone speaks here in Greece..Sure they look alike and you will be able to communicate,but consider that Greek people will be surprised to hear someone from another country to speak a language they are supposed to know :P
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JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6121 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 13 of 65 21 August 2009 at 5:43pm | IP Logged |
NikolGr wrote:
You cannot imagine how difficult is to learn Ancient Greek!We used to learn at school,and it was the most difficult lesson of all! |
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Yes, the grammar is quite complicated. In my case, my knowledge of German is helpful as some of the grammatical concepts are similar.
NikolGr wrote:
Although Modern Greek is the one everyone speaks here in Greece..Sure they look alike and you will be able to communicate,but consider that Greek people will be surprised to hear someone from another country to speak a language they are supposed to know :P |
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Interesting. Are you saying you will be able to communicate because Greeks generally know some Ancient Greek or because Modern Greek and Ancient Greek are similar (or both)?
Edited by JW on 21 August 2009 at 5:44pm
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NikolGr Newbie Greece myspace.com/hnikoleiRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5573 days ago 19 posts - 23 votes Studies: English*
| Message 14 of 65 01 September 2009 at 3:12am | IP Logged |
Thst's quite helpful then for the grammar!
Yes,you wll be able to communicate especially with the elderly!It's for both reasons..They do look alike in a point where the other person talking to you can understand at least what you mean.
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JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6121 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 15 of 65 02 September 2009 at 8:23pm | IP Logged |
NikolGr wrote:
Yes,you wll be able to communicate especially with the elderly!It's for both reasons..They do look alike in a point where the other person talking to you can understand at least what you mean. |
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That is very interesting. Another question. When you study Ancient Greek in Greece is the pronunciation presented as being exactly the same as Modern Greek or are distinctions made?
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5846 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 16 of 65 02 September 2009 at 8:31pm | IP Logged |
JW, do you mean that the case system of Ancient Greek is similar to the German case system? Ancient Greek also has three genders like German and the cases NOM, GEN, DAT, ACC and, if I remember well, also the vocative. I had my school exam of Ancient Greek in 1979, since then I haven't done anything with Ancient Greek.
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Edited by Fasulye on 02 September 2009 at 8:43pm
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