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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 9 of 12 21 October 2008 at 5:44am | IP Logged |
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To quickly acquire a good vocabulary, you could study the roots at this page, first the bold ones and then the non-bold ones... for each root, try to make as many words as possible using the affix system.
I believe that, more than learning a high number of word roots, for fluency in Esperanto you really need to train this ability to make a lot of words from a root. Because a lot of people have a limited vocabulary but they can still talk Esperanto fluently at the meetings because they know how to use their vocabulary for maximum advantage. For example, if you need to say "I left my glasses in the auditorium" and you never learned (or forgot) the words for "glasses" or "auditorium", the only difference between a beginner and a fluent speaker is that the fluent speaker will substitute "vidiloj" and "prelegejo" for the words that he, too, may not know, and his talk will be fluent, as if he had never looked for the other words, while the beginner will be ehmm-ing for a while before coming up with these very acceptable alternatives. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |
| chronik Diglot Groupie Brazil Joined 6010 days ago 42 posts - 42 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: Italian | Message 11 of 12 23 October 2008 at 11:08am | IP Logged |
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Thank you all! The Esperanto language is clearer for me now!
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| JMario Super Polyglot Newbie Mexico Joined 6586 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: Spanish*, FrenchC1, EnglishC1, GermanC1, ItalianB2, PortugueseB1, Esperanto, CatalanC1, Sign Language, Polish, Romanian, Russian Studies: Arabic (Written), Dutch, Czech, Mandarin, Nahuatl | Message 12 of 12 24 October 2008 at 10:19am | IP Logged |
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Be advanced in Esperanto is very relative, depends who consider you to be advanced: yourself, others who don't speak esperanto or esperantinsts. When I studied Esperanto I took a weekend six months course, which mainly focused in reading and listening; at the end I barely could present myself either speaking or in writing. It was not until I attended congresses and reunions that I developed my fluency, mainly taking risks since my vocabulary wasn't enough, as well as beginning correspondence via Esperanto websites.
After a year I was very competent to communicate with other esperantists, yet, especially the old ones consider myself a 'komencanto' or 'beginner' despite having a level in Esperanto equally of a advanced intermediate in other most common languages like English or French and as far as I can tell you, it still happens. I have used the 'Pasporta servo' to travel in Europe and despite being able to communicate in Esperanto with other esperantists like if Esperanto were our mother tongue, yet the old ones consider myself a beginner. My method to learn Esperanto, as well as other languages is not to memorize all the grammar rules and vocabulary at once and later try to use the language, instead, I memorize only the verbs or vocabulary which I use the most in my everyday life, as my communication can make progress then I add more verbs, vocabulary and rules that improve my conversation. Due to this I have some existential issues with esperantists of the old school who prefer more the first method to memorize the whole and consider yourself eternal beginner until you use strange vocabulary or useless rules. So, in summary, for me you could be fluent when you are able to maintain a conversation with another, yet if you need to use the dictionary at times. Also, something that I do when I don't remember or don't known a particular word is to describe the meaning, which is another way to show your fluency even if you couldn't precise just that single word. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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