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farrioth Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6094 days ago 171 posts - 173 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Esperanto, Sanskrit, Japanese
| Message 9 of 34 07 December 2008 at 2:56am | IP Logged |
-Kupo- wrote:
I wish you much luck with Sanskrit Farrioth, it has always seemed to have a sense of complexity about it to me. |
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Thank you. I suppose this air of complexity, or at least exoticness, is part of why Sanskrit interests me.
-Kupo- wrote:
As for using Anime for your listening comprehension in Japanese, anime really does come out with some odd terms once in a while. I would reccomend Japanese Dramas, or other TV shows much more for the more 'standard' japanese. Not saying not to use anime at all, I watch anime pretty regularly, but I think more natural japanese is found elsewhere. If you understand where I am coming from. |
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I've heard this before, but in relation to manga rather than anime, so thanks for mentioning it. I will probably stick with watching some anime, since it is something I enjoy in itself (which always helps with motivation), but I will look into J-Drama some more. Would you recommend any series in particular (for general entertianment, as well as exemplary language)? I've seen a bit of Kimi wa Petto, and Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, which I'll probably watch more of, especially if I can find subtitles for the latter.
Once again, thank you.
Edited by farrioth on 07 December 2008 at 2:59am
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| farrioth Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6094 days ago 171 posts - 173 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Esperanto, Sanskrit, Japanese
| Message 10 of 34 12 December 2008 at 6:37pm | IP Logged |
Well, I think it's time for a progress report.
After listening to hours of Sanskrit radio, I have become accustomed with the sound of the language. I'm surprised how little time this took, really. I still can't really distinguis aspiration and the retroflexes, but this should come with time and more careful listening (and specific listening exercises).
I've begun learning Devanāgarī, but slowly so far. I'll do some more on this today.
Esperanto is going well, I've been getting my vocabulary up towards my goal of 500, which has mostly been passive to active, or at least semi-active. I've been using Quizlet so far, and I'll be putting the words into Mnemosyne soon.
I also aim to get some more Russian sentences into Mnemosyne.
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| -Kupo- Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6071 days ago 84 posts - 84 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, Russian
| Message 11 of 34 16 December 2008 at 12:27pm | IP Logged |
farrioth wrote:
I've heard this before, but in relation to manga rather than anime, so thanks for mentioning it. I will probably stick with watching some anime, since it is something I enjoy in itself (which always helps with motivation), but I will look into J-Drama some more. Would you recommend any series in particular (for general entertianment, as well as exemplary language)? I've seen a bit of Kimi wa Petto, and Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, which I'll probably watch more of, especially if I can find subtitles for the latter. |
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I agree, if it motivates you it is a good idea. I am an avid watcher of anime, so I can understand to quite an extent. Manga I could also agree has some downfalls, however I read it regularly as another motivational tool. As for Japanese dramas, I watch so many of them, but if I was to pick one it would definitely be 1リットルの涙 (One Litre of Tears). It is by far my favourite drama and I would reccomend it to anyone, even though it is quite a tearjerker. At times it can have quite difficult language, especially when they go into medical terms but other than that, it is in my opinion, brilliant. If you like anime you would probably enjoy 花より団子(Hana Yori Dango) or possibly 野ブタをプロデュース(Nobuta wo Produce). If you are going to watch a recent drama series I would recommend this site which uses transcipts all in Japanese episode by episode.
Hope this can help you.
Edited by -Kupo- on 16 December 2008 at 12:28pm
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 12 of 34 16 December 2008 at 1:08pm | IP Logged |
I don't watch Anime or read Manga, except for Hikaru No Go. Have a look at it some time, I really like it. It's about the fascinating ancient Asian board game Go, which should interest a lot of people on this forum.
As for Esperanto, be sure to not just increase your vocabulary but also focus a lot on maximizing the use of the vocabulary you already have. Otherwise you will eventually reach a state where the average Esperanto speaker won't recognize the word roots you're using, but you yourself will have trouble with ad-hoc word formations, which are extremely common among Esperanto speakers. If you want, I can forward some really effective word formation exercises to you, which I have already sent to Volte. Or you can just try the form-as-many-words-as-you-can game by yourself, or search song lyrics and original novels for ad-hoc formations...
Edited by Sprachprofi on 16 December 2008 at 1:09pm
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| farrioth Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6094 days ago 171 posts - 173 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Esperanto, Sanskrit, Japanese
| Message 13 of 34 17 December 2008 at 7:53pm | IP Logged |
-Kupo- wrote:
I agree, if it motivates you it is a good idea. I am an avid watcher of anime, so I can understand to quite an extent. Manga I could also agree has some downfalls, however I read it regularly as another motivational tool. As for Japanese dramas, I watch so many of them, but if I was to pick one it would definitely be 1リットルの涙 (One Litre of Tears). It is by far my favourite drama and I would reccomend it to anyone, even though it is quite a tearjerker. At times it can have quite difficult language, especially when they go into medical terms but other than that, it is in my opinion, brilliant. If you like anime you would probably enjoy 花より団子(Hana Yori Dango) or possibly 野ブタをプロデュース(Nobuta wo Produce). If you are going to watch a recent drama series I would recommend this site which uses transcipts all in Japanese episode by episode.
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Thanks for the recommendations, I'll look into them some time.
While you're at it, could you recommend any Japanese music?
Sprachprofi wrote:
I don't watch Anime or read Manga, except for Hikaru No Go. Have a look at it some time, I really like it. It's about the fascinating ancient Asian board game Go, which should interest a lot of people on this forum. |
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Ah, Hikaru no Go. That was the series that got me into watching anime seriously. Do you play Go yourself?
Sprachprofi wrote:
If you want, I can forward some really effective word formation exercises to you, which I have already sent to Volte. Or you can just try the form-as-many-words-as-you-can game by yourself, or search song lyrics and original novels for ad-hoc formations... |
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You have a point about the vocabulary. It would be good if you could send me those exercises, thanks. I'll PM you with my email address.
Edited by farrioth on 18 December 2008 at 5:19am
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 14 of 34 18 December 2008 at 3:05am | IP Logged |
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Ah, Hikaru no Go. That was the series that got me into watching anime seriously. Do you play Go yourself? |
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Yes. I'm 12 kyu right now on KGS and I teach Go to anybody interested, particularly at Esperanto meetings. I think it's just beautiful, elegance in simplicity.
I sent you the exercises. Enjoy!
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| farrioth Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6094 days ago 171 posts - 173 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Esperanto, Sanskrit, Japanese
| Message 15 of 34 18 December 2008 at 4:28pm | IP Logged |
Sprachprofi wrote:
Yes. I'm 12 kyu right now on KGS and I teach Go to anybody interested, particularly at Esperanto meetings. I think it's just beautiful, elegance in simplicity. |
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Cool. I'm 22 kyu on DGS. I've been playing idly for a while; I should really study it more seriously again some time.
Sprachprofi wrote:
I sent you the exercises. Enjoy! |
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I've received them, thank you.
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| farrioth Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6094 days ago 171 posts - 173 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Esperanto, Sanskrit, Japanese
| Message 16 of 34 24 December 2008 at 5:42am | IP Logged |
December 24
So, day one. Well, I woke up late and with a sore neck, but otherwise the day went well.
25 minutes listening to Sanskrit radio from the All India Radio Archives
35 minutes listening to Russian Radio - NHK World and BBC Business News. The latter seems really fast, but I could still pick up some. I'm wondering if native speakers would find it fast, too.
45 minutes of Rosetta Stone Japanese - I've just about finished lesson 2 of unit 1.
A quarter of CD 6 of Michel Thomas Russian for Beginners - Still not a lot of new stuff, but it's great to re-enforce what I know. I'm looking forward to getting on to more advanced material with this.
216 flash cards (in Mnemosyne) - I've loaded in 650 Esperanto words (my deck now totals 4203 cards), so I've got a lot to get through at the moment.
20 minutes of Rosetta Stone Russian - I'd started working through this already. I'm up to the beginning of lesson 3 of unit 1.
Watched about a third of Ирония Судьбы. I couldn't understand a great deal, but enough to follow the plot so far. I'll probably watch the rest tomorrow or the next day.
Watched one episode of Naruto.
I also made some квас, a drink my Russian friend recently introduced me to, which was ready today and is now sitting in the fridge overnight. Great stuff. Try it if you get a chance.
Edited by farrioth on 25 December 2008 at 3:33am
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