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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4820 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 49 of 59 02 June 2012 at 10:00pm | IP Logged |
Alexander86 wrote:
Just like to second the above post in the TV series, which are excellent and really
allow you to hear the language
and appreciate its depth and beauty. They certainly got me thinking about the language
and its similarities and
differences with Swedish, which I am learning. |
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Cheers, Alexander. Well, my wife and I served our Scandinavian "apprenticeship" with
Wallander (both Swedish versions, as well as the BBC version and the books in English).
I might have gone on to try studying Swedish but for various reasons started with
Norwegian. Admittedly my attempt was a bit superficial, but at least my small
investment there isn't totally wasted, moving to Danish, given the similarity of the
written language. I continue to enjoy Swedish language drama, e.g Sebastian Bergmann,
which I am about to miss the start of....!
Edited by montmorency on 02 June 2012 at 11:51pm
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| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6026 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 50 of 59 03 June 2012 at 11:46am | IP Logged |
Juan M. wrote:
I'd also like to know how this idyll can generate as well such evils as sympathy and support of brutal terrorists and torturers across the ocean. From what I've seen, all these qualities are more distinctly present in Denmark than in its two Scandinavian neighbors. |
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This is because people freak out with so much peace and hygge around. Humans have intrinsic predisposition to violence, this plays a role in our society, and it also applies to the kind and trusting Vikings. If you don't vent the violence in some way ( like for example allowing yourself to be impolite and unfriendly, with moderation of course ), in just builds up under the surface. One day you freak out and then no amount of hygge can save you ^_^'.
Edited by Sennin on 03 June 2012 at 12:32pm
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| harryg Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4648 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 51 of 59 07 June 2012 at 2:00am | IP Logged |
Hi, does anyone have any online ways to learn Danish, and if you have learnt it, how you learnt it. After looking at
the language and what my grandparents and their friends have told me, i thought it would be easier to learn it
through CDs and audio lessons because of the pronunciation of some of the words but have been unable to find
any decent resources.
Thanks.
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4820 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 52 of 59 07 June 2012 at 3:54am | IP Logged |
harryg wrote:
Hi, does anyone have any online ways to learn Danish, and if you have
learnt it, how you learnt it. After looking at
the language and what my grandparents and their friends have told me, i thought it
would be easier to learn it
through CDs and audio lessons because of the pronunciation of some of the words but
have been unable to find
any decent resources.
Thanks. |
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If you want to do it online,you might be interested in this:
http://www.copenhagencast.com
The podcasts are free, but you have to pay for the transcripts, equivalent to about 10
DK Kr per transcript, which isn't bad, really.
I suppose it will only get you so far, but one has to start somewhere.
What I have started with is "Teach Yourself Complete Danish", a 300-odd page book and 2
CDs. It's only the basics, but again, you have to start somewhere. About £21 on Amazon
at the moment. Make sure you get the version with the CDs (the more expensive one,
obviously).
After that, my plan is to gradually get hold of novels in Danish, get the English
translation, and where possible, an audiobook version, and try using the so-called "L-
R" method (lots of references here on the forum). Basically, it's getting as much
exposure to the real language in written and spoken form, initially with a translation
to help one make sense of it. If all goes well, eventually the translation becomes
less and less necessary. But it's early days for me yet.
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| harryg Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4648 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 53 of 59 07 June 2012 at 5:37pm | IP Logged |
montmorency wrote:
harryg wrote:
Hi, does anyone have any online ways to learn Danish, and if you have
learnt it, how you learnt it. After looking at
the language and what my grandparents and their friends have told me, i thought it
would be easier to learn it
through CDs and audio lessons because of the pronunciation of some of the words but
have been unable to find
any decent resources.
Thanks. |
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If you want to do it online,you might be interested in this:
http://www.copenhagencast.com
The podcasts are free, but you have to pay for the transcripts, equivalent to about 10
DK Kr per transcript, which isn't bad, really.
I suppose it will only get you so far, but one has to start somewhere.
What I have started with is "Teach Yourself Complete Danish", a 300-odd page book and 2
CDs. It's only the basics, but again, you have to start somewhere. About £21 on Amazon
at the moment. Make sure you get the version with the CDs (the more expensive one,
obviously).
After that, my plan is to gradually get hold of novels in Danish, get the English
translation, and where possible, an audiobook version, and try using the so-called "L-
R" method (lots of references here on the forum). Basically, it's getting as much
exposure to the real language in written and spoken form, initially with a translation
to help one make sense of it. If all goes well, eventually the translation becomes
less and less necessary. But it's early days for me yet.
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Thanks! I'll have a look at them.Is the teach your self one similar to the Michel Thomas tapes, as i found them quite
useful when recapping my Spanish?
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4820 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 54 of 59 07 June 2012 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
harryg wrote:
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Thanks! I'll have a look at them.Is the teach your self one similar to the Michel
Thomas tapes, as i found them quite
useful when recapping my Spanish? |
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Not really. I've done MT German and Spanish, and enjoyed them, so I know what MT is
like, and I'd say TYS isn't really like that at all. You might say it's much more
traditional. And the book was first published in 1994. I suppose it must have been
updated a bit, but probably not as much as the re-branding over the years might suggest
:-)
Nevertheless, I think it's still a solid little course.
Initially, you can just concentrate on the dialogues on the CD, which are all printed
in the book, so there is a bit of "L-R" going on, then you can go back and fill in some
gaps, with vocabulary lists, comprehension tests, etc.
There is grammar in there, but it doesn't go over the top. I'd say you can pretty much
pick up most of the grammar by context, at least as far as this course goes, so I'm not
losing sleep over it :-)
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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4660 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 55 of 59 07 June 2012 at 8:46pm | IP Logged |
Danish intonation is more similar to the English one. Norwegian and Swedish have a very ''complicated'' intonation which is complex both 1. at a word level (pitch accent); and 2. at a sentence level (speech melody).
If we compare it with Romance languages, Danish would be like European Portuguese or French, and Swedish and Norwegian would be like Spanish and Italian, when it comes to pronunciation. Do we expect one letter-one sound correspondence in Continental Portuguese and French? No!
Edited by Medulin on 07 June 2012 at 8:52pm
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| Haldor Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5607 days ago 103 posts - 122 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Swedish Studies: French, Spanish
| Message 56 of 59 12 June 2012 at 11:29pm | IP Logged |
A girl I know once told me she found Norwegian to be the Italian of the Germanic languages, because of its musical qualities (the singing way we speak). I'll take that as a compliment. True, we have the pitch accent like in Italian, but the consonants give that away (double consonant = brief vowel), but I didn't know this was hard to grasp.
If I were to recommend a Scandinavian language, I'd probably go with either Swedish or Norwegian, because of the beauty of the languages ( I don't like the way Danish sounds). Swedish just sounds silly and funny to us, Danish like the person has a speech impediment. Then I'd probably conclude with Norwegian, since we understand both of the other two. But then again, Norwegian has all the accents, so maybe Danish, or Swedish, is better.
I've noticed our accents are a matter of debate here, don't ask me why ;)
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