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 Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes  Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 161 of 248 07 May 2009 at 7:29am | IP Logged | ||
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Day 86
------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------- 6 hrs committed. 6 hrs to review Block 1 (500) – Consolidation in progress -Successful spoken identification: in progress - 40% complete -Successful visual identification: in progress - 30% complete -Successful written production: in progress - Block 2 (500) – Consolidation pending Block 3 (500) – Under review *Well, same as yesterday, review. I tried to look at some more words but it just didn't work out that way. Doesn't matter though, there's only so much review you can do before you know what your reviewing pretty perfectly. Eventually I'll make it too the new words. *Yawn, so sleeping in tomorrow* Edited by Brian_N on 09 May 2009 at 2:22am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5796 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 162 of 248 07 May 2009 at 9:04am | IP Logged | ||
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Therefore I pay your attention to such things as the coordination of the subject and the attribute, especially since you are English-speaking man and English have neither the grammatical gender nor the complex set of cases. (For me, for example, it is difficult to use the articles: Russian have not they and I don't feel the necessity of them -- you can see that I often do mistakes with the articles). The coordination is the "formal" part of the Russian grammar: when you will have teached the grammatical rules, you will not do the mistakes. The real nightmare will begin when you will try to learn about the use of word order: there aren't the strong and clear rules about it, and the formal method (to teach the rules -- to use the rules) don't work. It is need to form "the sense of language". If you will have done this, you will really know Russian. (I afraid that I done very many mistakes in the using of the English tenses...) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 163 of 248 08 May 2009 at 10:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Day 87
Wow, 2 inches of snow...and its May for crying out loud. I'm supposed to be in the lake swimming in a month, this sucks. ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------- 6 hrs committed. 6 hrs to review Block 1 (500) – Consolidation in progress -Successful spoken identification: in progress - 40% complete -Successful visual identification: in progress - 50% complete -Successful written production: in progress - 10% complete Block 2 (500) – Consolidation pending Block 3 (500) – Under review *2 hrs listening to Radio Mayak Edited by Brian_N on 09 May 2009 at 2:22am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 164 of 248 09 May 2009 at 1:55am | IP Logged | ||
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Strategy Session – May 2009 – Organizing my thoughts
The first three months have yielded the following ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ Vocabulary – 1250 words (Source – Declan’s Russian Flashcards) Active Listening Vocabulary: (500-750/1250) est. Active Reading Vocabulary: (600-800/1250) est. Active Speaking Vocabulary: ? Active Writing Vocabulary: ? Total Hours Listening to Russian – 200 (Source – Radio Mayak) *rough estimate actual unknown, tracking has not yet been implemented Grammatical Knowledge: Insignificant. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ General Overview of Efforts Since Inception: With the exception of the past few days, initial efforts have strongly emphasized flexibility in thought and action. No rigid study patterns have yet emerged or have yet been developed. Time committed varies between 1-4 hrs per day, with about 2 and a half being the norm. Learning strategy has prioritized vocabulary expansion for the comprehension of Russian verbal input as well as word recognition for Russian visual input. No serious efforts of grammar study, reading, or speaking have yet been undertaken. This strategy is based on the following beliefs and assumptions ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ Stress of Russian words is unpredictable. To proceed with efforts of reading through “sounding it out” runs the risk of an improper sound becoming attached to a new word. If reinforced too much this improper sound will become an improper vocalization. This is highly undesirable as re-training is more difficult than learning. Until an understanding of Russian patterns of expression are developed any serious hope of writing is futile. Proper writing in the T2 requires not only an understanding of T2 words, but also T2 means of expression. Writing at my current level of understanding will produce nothing more than Russian words meshed together within  English frameworks of expression. Reinforcing of this is also highly undesirable. Strong comprehension of Russian verbal input should be prioritised so Russian patterns of expression can be observed and utilized. Until a larger vocabulary has been developed and many common Russian words can be recognized on sight, grammar study should be avoided. Everything I’ve read suggests Russian grammar is among the most complicated. To be flipping through a dictionary while I’m trying to understand it will only serve to waste my time and divide my attention. A more quicker and thorough understanding can be achieved by being familiar with all the words that will be used in teaching Russian grammar. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ Now...what is the most efficient way of making the most and quickest progress within the framework of my beliefs and assumptions...........? This will need some thought. Edited by Brian_N on 09 May 2009 at 1:57am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 165 of 248 09 May 2009 at 2:22am | IP Logged | ||
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Day 88
0 hours committed – Review of learning methodology in progress. Block 1 (500) – Consolidation in progress -Successful spoken identification: in progress - 40% complete -Successful visual identification: in progress - 50% complete -Successful written production: in progress - 10% complete Block 2 (500) – Consolidation pending Block 3 (500) – Under review *2 ½ hrs listening - Radio Mayak Edited by Brian_N on 09 May 2009 at 2:26am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 166 of 248 10 May 2009 at 8:24am | IP Logged | ||
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Well in the midst of reorganization I’ve decided it’s time to slowly start saying goodbye to Delcan’s Russian Flashcards. I really enjoy the program, however its total vocabulary is limited. About 2 months ago I thought 3000 words would be enough. However with a better understanding of the task of actually learning another language, 3000 words won’t do, especially when you consider native fluency is my goal.
I believe “Learn Russian Now! 10” is something closer to what I require. It claims to come with 15,000 words and expressions all with audio. As well as a bunch of other things I will probably never end up using. I just want words with native speaker pronunciation. Now, going from it’s probably what i’m looking for to actually getting it onto my computer is proving to be...a royal pain in the ass. I bought the program from Transparent Languages online store. It’s one of those download and buy things. What they don’t tell you is that you online have 5 download “attempts” and since I’m using satellite internet, my connection goes snaky on me every few hours. So the 5 attempts were used up pretty quickly lol. So now I have to wait half a month for the actual CD to arrive though snail mail. Joy....I just so wanna get on the phone right now and be one of those customers that makes the service reps wonder “why they put up with this shit for $10 an hour?”. But it’s not their fault, so, yeah. I guess I’ll have to wait half a month for the “rest” of my vocabulary to arrive...since my last and final download F-ed up at 99.6%. I was not pleased...I’m still not pleased lol. 0.4%...unbelievable. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 167 of 248 10 May 2009 at 8:26am | IP Logged | ||
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Day 89
0 hours committed – Review of learning methodology in progress. Block 1 (500) – Consolidation in progress -Successful spoken identification: in progress - 40% complete -Successful visual identification: in progress - 50% complete -Successful written production: in progress - 10% complete Block 2 (500) – Consolidation pending Block 3 (500) – Under review *1 hrs listening - Radio Mayak 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brian_N Pro Member Canada Joined 5769 days ago 200 posts - 202 votes Studies: English*, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 168 of 248 11 May 2009 at 7:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Day 90 - Tier 1
6 hours committed - 6 to review ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Declan's Russian Flashcards ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- 1000 Most Common Russian Nouns -Successful verbal identification: Consolidation in progress - (5 groups of 50 words completed @ 90%+ => 15 to go) -Successful visual identification: Consolidation in progress - (5 groups of 50 words completed @ 90%+ => 15 to go) 600 Most Common Russian Adjectives -Successful spoken identification: Under Review -Successful visual identification: Under Review 500 Most Common Russian Verbs -Successful spoken identification: Pending -Successful visual identification: Pending 200 Most Common Russian Adverbs -Successful spoken identification: Pending -Successful visual identification: Pending ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Tier 1 - Focused Listening Hours Completed - (+1hr) (1 of 250) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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