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| martynlcfc Newbie United Kingdom Joined 6377 days ago 6 posts - 6 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 145 of 405 27 June 2007 at 5:12pm | IP Logged |
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What annoys me slightly about the Vocabulary builder course (in Spanish), is that often Rose will claim that vocabulary/verbs will already have been covered in the Michel Thomas courses whereas in actual fact they have not. In CD1 for example it assumes you've learnt 'to drink' and imperfect conjugations of 'ser' when they were not covered in the courses.
Also, I've just finished the advanced course myself. For people who have completed it, how many times did you listen through the CD's before mastering it? With the foundation course it took 2 listens from cd5-cd8 to get to a stage where I could whizz through the review cd with minimal mistakes. What have been your experiences with the advanced course AND how you continued to learn your Spanish after Michel Thomas (especially if MT was your first introduction to Spanish like it was mine). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Languagelover1 Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6430 days ago 63 posts - 63 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 146 of 405 27 June 2007 at 5:46pm | IP Logged |
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Hi Martyn,
The imperfect of Ser (era) is covered on the Advanced Course, CD 3 Track 20 at 0.58 Seconds. 'Beber' and 'Comer' are covered on the language builder CD's not sure if they are in the foundation or advanced. The most useful thing I've bought for continuing my Spanish is Madrigal's Magic Key To Spanish and Spanish For Reading by Sandberg. Also a Spanish Frequency Dictionary with the top 5000 words (covers about 95% of stanard spoken Spanish and less for reading, especially fiction but still useful). Talking with Spanish friends has helped too. Everything by Dorothy Devney is fantastic (and cheap) You also need something to develop one's pronunciation after MT, Pronounce it Perfectly in Spanish is good. My Spanish friends tell me that MT's accent in Spanish is horrendous! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Languagelover1 Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6430 days ago 63 posts - 63 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 147 of 405 27 June 2007 at 5:47pm | IP Logged |
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By the way, I find it really useful to go over the 'Advanced Review' CD
regularly to remind myself of what was covered in the Advanced Course. I've done this several times now and it has really helped. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| martynlcfc Newbie United Kingdom Joined 6377 days ago 6 posts - 6 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 148 of 405 27 June 2007 at 6:29pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks for that LanguageLover, I only completed the advanced course for the 1st time today so hopefully, I'll have it mastered if I go through it another 2/3 times but, as it's only MT I'm using at the moment, I feel like maybe I should be combining it with another course, be it an all encompassing one or just vocabulary to pad out the stuff I've learnt.
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| Languagelover1 Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6430 days ago 63 posts - 63 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 149 of 405 27 June 2007 at 7:06pm | IP Logged |
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If you haven't already got it you should get the Advanced Review as it is only
one CD long and will let you revise this much more efficiently than listening to all five hours. I also found Behind the Wheel Spanish really useful and it is quite cheap to. 8 CDs but quite similar to the michel method. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6448 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German | Message 150 of 405 07 July 2007 at 1:43pm | IP Logged |
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I have never, ever in my life encountered a more irritating set of voices than those of the late Mr. Thomas and his two Spanish pupils. I cannot comment on the effectiveness of the method, only that I found it extremely irritating. Mr. Thomas does not have a native accent and it shows, his pupils' mistakes are irritating. I wanted to pour hot wax into my ears after less than a minute. I sampled several lessons and could not stand listening to it more than a few seconds. It was so irritating that it amused me to sample a few more just to see how long I'll last. Did I mention it was a very irritating experience?
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| Cage Diglot aka a.ardaschira, Athena, Michael Thomas Senior Member United States Joined 6625 days ago 382 posts - 393 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 151 of 405 07 July 2007 at 7:58pm | IP Logged |
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I have to agree with you reineke...I can not get into courses without native speakers. To me that is irritating enough.
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| Roq71 Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6595 days ago 63 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Haitian Creole | Message 152 of 405 08 July 2007 at 9:46pm | IP Logged |
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I completely agree. I feel that it would be detrimental to extensively study an audio course that did not use the voices of native speakers. How about learning Hungarian from a native speaker of Vietnamese? Korean from a native French speaker? I think MT Spanish is almost that ridiculous.
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