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coyote
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 Message 241 of 405
04 March 2009 at 5:04pm | IP Logged 
A question for Volapuk 49, or anyone who knows:

I've noticed that McGraw-Hill (U.S. publishers of the MT courses)is coming out with new 10-CD Beginner's courses for French and Spanish in May '09. The Amazon.com promotional information says that the courses are the Michel Thomas Method, and that students are taught by a language instructor and a native speaker. If this is true are future courses moving away from the original tapes with MT as teacher? I know this is being done with the new languages (Mandarin, Russian, Arabic, etc.), but was wondering if the trend is also being followed for Spanish, French, German, and Italian--those languages MT personally taught.
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 Message 242 of 405
04 March 2009 at 5:22pm | IP Logged 
coyote wrote:
I've noticed that McGraw-Hill (U.S. publishers of the MT courses)is coming out with new 10-CD Beginner's courses for French and Spanish in May '09. The Amazon.com promotional information says that the courses are the Michel Thomas Method, and that students are taught by a language instructor and a native speaker. If this is true are future courses moving away from the original tapes with MT as teacher? I know this is being done with the new languages (Mandarin, Russian, Arabic, etc.), but was wondering if the trend is also being followed for Spanish, French, German, and Italian--those languages MT personally taught.


Someone commented on the "new edition" on the Michel Thomas board, but Hodder denied that it was anything other than a packaging change, it looks like someone at McGraw-Hill has inappropriately lifted the blurb from one of the newer courses and stuck it on this.
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volapuk49
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 Message 243 of 405
04 March 2009 at 11:37pm | IP Logged 
There are no new Michel Thomas courses by Michel Thomas. Whatever is out is all that is available.

The new language courses in the Michel Thomas series as published by Hodder and then, later, republished by
McGraw-Hill, are by other teachers.

There are no new courses for the major European languages which Michel Thomas recorded. He died in 2005 and
all the courses recorded prior to that date have been released.
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Rollo the Cat
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 Message 244 of 405
05 March 2009 at 1:04am | IP Logged 
volapuk49 wrote:
There are no new Michel Thomas courses by Michel Thomas. Whatever is out is all that is
available.

The new language courses in the Michel Thomas series as published by Hodder and then, later, republished by
McGraw-Hill, are by other teachers.

There are no new courses for the major European languages which Michel Thomas recorded. He died in 2005 and
all the courses recorded prior to that date have been released.


Yes, but the question was, are there new courses, by new teachers in the original four languages.
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zorglub
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 Message 245 of 405
05 March 2009 at 1:13am | IP Logged 
For French speakers, yes :
http://www.harraps-audio.harrap.com/
There are 3 courses for French speakers , that use native (Spanish and I suppose, Italian)or near-native (French) speakers.

There is also a Mandarin course for French Speakers !!! ("débutant")

Rollo the Cat wrote:
volapuk49 wrote:
There are no new Michel Thomas courses by Michel Thomas. Whatever is out is all that is
available.

The new language courses in the Michel Thomas series as published by Hodder and then, later, republished by
McGraw-Hill, are by other teachers.

There are no new courses for the major European languages which Michel Thomas recorded. He died in 2005 and
all the courses recorded prior to that date have been released.


Yes, but the question was, are there new courses, by new teachers in the original four languages.


Edited by zorglub on 05 March 2009 at 5:18pm

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zorglub
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 Message 246 of 405
05 March 2009 at 1:15am | IP Logged 
VOLAPUK ,
I just noticed there is a MT Chinese program for french speakers.
Is that an adaptation of your course ? Same Chinese speaker ? real students or actors mimicking the real students from your course ?
http://www.harraps-audio.harrap.com/methode-pages/methode-ch inois-deb.html
Cheers
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volapuk49
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 Message 247 of 405
05 March 2009 at 1:39am | IP Logged 
The Harrap Mandarin course is a translation into French of the course I did in English. Actors are used for all of
the roles. I was never informed of the existence of this course until long after it was available.

There is another Harrap course for French-speakers to learn English. This is a scripted course which is actually
based on a Michel Thomas course to teach French-speakers English. The original tape with him doing all of the
teaching was transcribed and the new version is done with actors.

The French courses using the MT method ( Spanish, etc.) are all translations of the original MT English language
courses.

Except for the vocabulary courses of Rose Hayden for the original four European languages I do not know of any
others by other teachers.



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zorglub
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 Message 248 of 405
05 March 2009 at 1:40am | IP Logged 
Actually, why not try and listen to the frst hour:
http://www.harraps-audio.harrap.com/methode-pages/extraits-l angues.html

The Italian teacher is native (my guess from her accent). The students in the "perfectionnement" course have an amazingly good pronunciation for beginners, in the lesson I'm listening to.

Mandarin is an adaptation of Harry Goodman's Mandarin course, they kept the original student and Chinese native speaker recordings EDIT: Well PROBABLY NOT). They changed "ing wo gen" (bloodu English) "for fa gwo gen" (frog) in one course, oeuf corse.

The Spanish speaker and teacher or actor mimicking Michel Thomas , who is native, has a very nice voice and pronunciation. The method worked very well with my son although he had to go to Spain before he had finished the "Débutant" course.

I expect them to make a German course or us French speakers in due time.

zorglub wrote:
For French speakers, yes :
http://www.harraps-audio.harrap.com/
There are 3 courses for French speakers , that use native (Spanish and I suppose, Italian)or near-native (French) speakers.

There is also a Mandarin course for French Speakers !!! ("débutant")


Edited by zorglub on 05 March 2009 at 5:16pm



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