hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 321 of 405 02 March 2011 at 7:23pm | IP Logged |
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Not trolling. It happens every time MT's pronunciation and non-MT-led courses come up in the forum. And I find it humorous every time, since the people that typically say it couldn't possibly have completed every course.
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6784 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 322 of 405 02 March 2011 at 7:31pm | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
Cainntear wrote:
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Not trolling. It happens every time MT's pronunciation and non-MT-led courses come up in
the forum. And I find it humorous every time, since the people that typically say it
couldn't possibly have completed every course.
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I've done one MT course with MT and one without him. What prizes have I won?
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anothername Triglot Groupie Brazil Joined 5062 days ago 96 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Spanish, English
| Message 323 of 405 02 March 2011 at 8:19pm | IP Logged |
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[...] Then you'll probably never be convinced, but that's OK as MT is for native English speakers and uses points of English grammar that most foreign learners have never learnt, so it's not really aimed at you. |
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Interesting, but could you please point one specific topic of English grammar used by MT that foreign learners supposedly never learn?
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 324 of 405 03 March 2011 at 11:14am | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
Cainntear wrote:
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Not trolling. It happens every time MT's pronunciation and non-MT-led courses come up in the forum. And I find it humorous every time, since the people that typically say it couldn't possibly have completed every course.
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Michel Thomas
Spanish: completed Foundation, Advanced, Language Builder, Vocabulary
Italian: completed Foundation, Advanced, Language Builder
French: completed Foundation, Advanced
German: completed Foundation
Other teachers:
Dutch: completed Foundation
Russian: completed Foundation (skipped Cyrillic alphabet lesson at the end)
Polish: at least half of Foundation
Japanese: 3-4 CDs of Foundation
Mandarin: 1-2 CDs of Foundation
Arabic: First CD of Foundation only
Portuguese: Free sample from website.
So no, I've not completed every course, but it certainly would have been possible if I'd forced myself.
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 325 of 405 03 March 2011 at 11:14am | IP Logged |
anothername wrote:
Cainntear wrote:
[...] Then you'll probably never be convinced, but that's OK as MT is for native English speakers and uses points of English grammar that most foreign learners have never learnt, so it's not really aimed at you. |
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Interesting, but could you please point one specific topic of English grammar used by MT that foreign learners supposedly never learn? |
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That's not what I said.
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schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5561 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 326 of 405 03 March 2011 at 12:44pm | IP Logged |
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Dutch: completed Foundation |
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Admit it. It's good.
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anothername Triglot Groupie Brazil Joined 5062 days ago 96 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Spanish, English
| Message 327 of 405 03 March 2011 at 1:47pm | IP Logged |
Cainntear wrote:
anothername wrote:
Cainntear wrote:
[...] Then you'll probably never be convinced, but that's OK as MT is for native English speakers and uses points of English grammar that most foreign learners have never learnt, so it's not really aimed at you. |
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Interesting, but could you please point one specific topic of English grammar used by MT that foreign learners supposedly never learn? |
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That's not what I said. |
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I hope you are not being evasive, as I believe you are a trustable poster. If you believe I misquoted you, or if you didn't understood my question, I will repeat what you said with your exact words:
You said (as already quoted above) that "MT is for native English speakers and uses points of English grammar that most foreign learners have never learnt". Could you please specify just one of these grammar points used in MT courses that "most foreign learners have never learnt"?
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 328 of 405 03 March 2011 at 2:51pm | IP Logged |
Cainntear wrote:
Other teachers:
Dutch: completed Foundation
Russian: completed Foundation (skipped Cyrillic alphabet lesson at the end)
Polish: at least half of Foundation
Japanese: 3-4 CDs of Foundation
Mandarin: 1-2 CDs of Foundation
Arabic: First CD of Foundation only
Portuguese: Free sample from website.
So no, I've not completed every course, but it certainly would have been possible if I'd forced myself. |
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I can't help but notice there isn't a single "Advanced" among that list of mostly unfinished courses.
While it is indeed possible to "force" onself to complete every course, I've not seen a single person do so. And that's why I find it silly to read that these non-MT-led courses are inferior (whether foundation or advanced).
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Edited by hrhenry on 03 March 2011 at 2:53pm
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