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| .automne Diglot Groupie Norway Joined 5829 days ago 56 posts - 57 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: French | Message 17 of 24 31 March 2009 at 12:54pm | IP Logged | ||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o7qUWAzq60&feature=related And, yes, this IS an edited spoof video, but at least you get to hear her dialect. :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hazylynx Newbie England Joined 5747 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes | Message 18 of 24 31 March 2009 at 2:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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I can't roll my R's...
A girl i know from finland said even some natives (Of Finland and Sweden) can't roll their R's.. i guess it's a most to learn.. if i want to learn svenska properly ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MäcØSŸ Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5810 days ago 259 posts - 392 votes Speaks: Italian*, EnglishC2 Studies: German | Message 19 of 24 31 March 2009 at 4:05pm | IP Logged | ||
Being Italian, I can roll R's, but in Swedish I always tend to pronounce them like in English, because, due to "retroflexion", when I speak in Swedish I feel like I was speaking a non-rhotic English variety (in fact I also tend not to pronounce R's before "non-retroflexible" consonants) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6895 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 20 of 24 31 March 2009 at 4:43pm | IP Logged | ||
If they can't it's either that they are unfortunate and suffer from a serious speech impediment, or she might have been referring to some dialects where the R is pronounced differently. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6910 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 21 of 24 31 March 2009 at 5:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Remember that Swedish has many types of R:s (while the usage of any them won't change the meaning of the word). Usually it's a question of rolled R vs. throat R (front vs. back, alveolar trill vs. uvular trill et.c.) - the latter being more common in the southern parts of Sweden: Skåne, Blekinge, Småland, Öland, and to some extent Västergötland and Östergötland. Then you have the retroflex R in dental clusters like rd, rt, rl, rs, rn (those are usually not retroflex in the aforementioned southern accents). Another more recent variant is a sound similar to /j/ in French (je, jamais, aujour et.c.) - in any position, really: [ʒ]adio, Pete[ʒ],
t[ʒ]e et.c. Even some radio announcers use this "lazy" R... "Radio Stockholm - Etthundratre komma treeee! (103,3)" sounds more like: "[ʒ]adio Stockholm - Etthundrat[ʒ]e komma t[ʒ]eeee" 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Yurk Triglot Newbie United States Joined 5731 days ago 29 posts - 37 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Azerbaijani Studies: Modern Hebrew, Sign Language, Korean, Spanish, Indonesian, Irish Studies: French | Message 22 of 24 31 March 2009 at 10:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, since this is a Swedish thread I'll ask here;
Can anyone explain how "you" translates into Swedish? I lack physical resources atm and have been learning mainly through videos and LingQ. Doing this has brought me across several words that translate into "you." Excuse my ignorance and thank you! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6895 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 23 of 24 31 March 2009 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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Plural you = "ni" inflected form "er"
Singular you = "du" (cf. thou) inflected form "dig" (cf. "thee") Impersonal you = "man" inflected form "en". Did you come across any other ones? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Yurk Triglot Newbie United States Joined 5731 days ago 29 posts - 37 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Azerbaijani Studies: Modern Hebrew, Sign Language, Korean, Spanish, Indonesian, Irish Studies: French | Message 24 of 24 31 March 2009 at 11:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you Hencke! And as far as I can remember, that's all I encountered. Ni in particular confused me.
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