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| Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5890 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes  Speaks: French*, Dutch, German | Message 17 of 73 03 April 2009 at 1:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think that you can learn a word in a day, or in some minutes as well. I learned many words like this. You haven't always to revise and review them. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5915 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian | Message 18 of 73 03 April 2009 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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There's a cumulative effect with language learning so by the time you get to the fourth or fifth you know exactly what to learn and how to learn it. What has also helped me greatly is knowing English grammar inside out. This makes it much easier to relate concepts between languages and to understand and isolate grammatical concepts in other languages.
I don't find it necessary to constantly review vocabulary either as usually once I have the sound anchored in my head, it sticks. I also won't move on to another word until the previous one sticks. You can "learn" 10 words a day but if you have to review them constantly it kind of interferes with the next 10 words. I'd rather learn 3 or 4 but actually learn them so that I don't have to be constantly reviewing them. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6003 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 19 of 73 03 April 2009 at 8:10pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That's a very useful talent, but it is sadly extremely rare.
There is a whole heap of words that I used every day while I lived in Spain automatically, without any effort. I've forgotten quite a few because I don't talk about the same range of topics in Spanish here. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5890 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German | Message 20 of 73 03 April 2009 at 8:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
¿Porqué no? No escribes nunca en el hilo español, ya lo creo que sería buen idea si quieres pratiquar el idioma :-) Claro, si no lo practiques lo olvidarás. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6003 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 21 of 73 03 April 2009 at 9:36pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I practise Spanish all the time -- it's just a matter of not speaking about the same topics.
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| tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5858 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish | Message 22 of 73 03 April 2009 at 10:12pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
How exactly do you make it stick? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5915 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian | Message 23 of 73 04 April 2009 at 2:44am | IP Logged | ||||||||
It's hard to explain but I'll have a go. I think I do it by association. I need to tie the word to one I already know, a sound, a colour, a texture, a shape, a feeling or some kind of representation. I'll think about the word until the association is made. Colours help a lot too, most words that start with the letter 'a' have a predominantly red hue to them, words that begin with 'c' are yellow and so on. Some letters don't have colours but shapes or textures. It's similar to the way you remember a piece of music, you don't just remember the notes you remember the feelings you attached to them which makes the memory more.. real? Does that make sense? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5858 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish | Message 24 of 73 04 April 2009 at 3:34am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, not really. Probably everyone uses some associations, where obvious associations exist. e.g., English boys = Dutch jongens (young ones). Maybe good second language learners are better at spotting and remembering such associations than poor second language learners. However, I don't see how letters could have colours unless you set up a system of letters = colours. How come 'a" is red and 'c' is yellow? Is it the same in all your second languages? Same question for shapes and textures: Are those associations that just happened or did you set up a regular system? The idea of remembering music with attached feelings seems to make some sense as an example of an association that sticks. All this is quite abstract and probably very subjective for individual learners. Can you say something about how you learn these words in practice? 1. Do you concentrate on an individual word, repeat it many times, different ways, etc. for perhaps many minutes before you are convinced you know it and then move to the next one? 2. How do you know you know it? Just a feeling? What tells you it has stuck? I can do that sort of thing and 10 minutes later I have forgotten it. 3. Are some words very much harder than others, or virtually impossible to learn in one session? How do you handle these really tough ones? If you are very good at this, and can figure out how you do it, the world will beat a path to your door. Thanks. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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