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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 49 of 64
01 May 2009 at 10:50am | IP Logged 
Earle wrote:
I'm in Huntsville, Alabama, USA, one of eleven states in the USA hit so far and the only city in
this state. Huntsville is a very cosmopolitan community, with people moving in and out continually from all over
the world. It also has a sizable Hispanic minority, including many from Mexico. All of the schools are presently
closed. However, as "Williy" says, it's been very mild so far - no worse than the normally-circulating Type A
influenzas. Believe me, I know the difference. My freshman (first) year at the University of Alabama, 1957, I
caught the so-called "Asian Flu," as part of that pandemic and nearly died.


Mild so far and attenuates in the countries outside of mexico BUT virusses mutate all the time, and for the
survival it maybe will mutate and suddenly it will be extremely dangerous. But, if it would be too quickly fatal, it
hasn't sufficient time for find the next host, therefore the virus find the better level of hosts' fatality for its own
survival. This potentially extremely frightening in my opinion, but maybe after some months after some
mutations.

The Type A influenzas include many, *extremely* many possible ones.


Quote:
It was, as this flu is, an avian strain...


Yes!!!!! EXACTLY it was BIRD flu. Most of birds' flu has to find a mammal host (swines) before it can be in the
humans, although in the last decades this isn't anymore the case, it can go directly to the human. This flu,
A/H1N1-2009 (I thnk that they call it this now, which is a very good name) is a combination bird-swine-human
flu. The humans' immune systems don't have the recognition or therefore capacity for immunity against the
swine/bird elements. Also: this flu, A/H1N1-2009 they did NOT find in the swines. Swine Flu was truly a stupid,
ignorant and incorrect name. It's possible the transfer at humans was by flies, birds, they don't know becase in
the pigs' farm they didn't find an animal with the virus (possibly this is a lie and the company had destroyed
those ill ones).

The Asian Flu was a pandemic, (and worse, I agree) *but* this isn't pandemic until now: BUT, there's the
possibility. It depend of the mutations now. We will know in 2011 if it were a pandemic or not. It's important
they make a vaccine. Tamiflu is not much help, but propaganda. Much of the news now also, but it's better the
people are prudent.

Edited by Jar-ptitsa on 01 May 2009 at 10:51am

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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 50 of 64
01 May 2009 at 11:23am | IP Logged 
Williy wrote:
Guys, you probably won't believe me, in fact I know you won't - but I have (or had) the swine flu. I
am a student at Kings Edgehill School in Nova Scotia, Canada, and I contracted it from one of my friends that
visited Mexico as part of a school trip.

I am here to tell you that 3 of my friends have it, and it has been (for us at least) very mild. I honestly believe that
although it is quite contagious, there is probably nothing to fear, although I could be wrong.

My regards.


Maybe you're fortunate: your body has made some immunity, therfore *if* the virus will mutate and it will be a
pandemic, when the A/H1N1-2009 is worse, you wouldn't die. Like after a vaccine when if you contract the
infection you suffer a mild version.
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Olekander
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 Message 51 of 64
01 May 2009 at 11:39am | IP Logged 
yawn
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 52 of 64
01 May 2009 at 11:47am | IP Logged 
Olekander wrote:
yawn


If biology, immunology, etc..isn't interesting for you, don't visit this thread. it isn't a forum rule that you have to find only languages interesting or have to read all the threads. You're quite an annoying person.
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Earle
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 Message 53 of 64
01 May 2009 at 3:19pm | IP Logged 
Quote:
The Asian Flu was a pandemic, (and worse, I agree) *but* this isn't pandemic until now: BUT, there's the possibility. It depend of the mutations now.


Yes, the authorities here keep warning that the continuing mutation of the virus make it a dangerous assumption that it will continue to be mild. In the 1918 pandemic, avian again, their was a mild outbreak in the spring at the end of the flu season, but then it came roaring back in the fall as a killer flu. If this malady visits our British friend's community, I doubt he'll find the topic boring. Meanwhile, I second your advice to him - just don't click...

Edit: BTW, the age range of the two confirmed and ten suspected cases here is from ten years old to thirty. It is the same pattern as the 1918 pandemic...

Edited by Earle on 01 May 2009 at 3:49pm

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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 54 of 64
01 May 2009 at 4:10pm | IP Logged 
Earle wrote:
Quote:
The Asian Flu was a pandemic, (and worse, I agree) *but* this isn't pandemic until now: BUT,
there's the possibility. It depend of the mutations now.


Yes, the authorities here keep warning that the continuing mutation of the virus make it a dangerous assumption
that it will continue to be mild. In the 1918 pandemic, avian again, their was a mild outbreak in the spring at the
end of the flu season, but then it came roaring back in the fall as a killer flu. If this malady visits our British
friend's community, I doubt he'll find the topic boring. Meanwhile, I second your advice to him - just don't click...

Edit: BTW, the age range of the two confirmed and ten suspected cases here is from ten years old to thirty. It is
the same pattern as the 1918 pandemic...


I agree completely. (And, 1918 was also H1N1).
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 Message 55 of 64
01 May 2009 at 7:11pm | IP Logged 
שפעת החזירים
shapa'at hachazirim

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TheBiscuit
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 Message 56 of 64
01 May 2009 at 11:10pm | IP Logged 
It's now being called 'influenza humana' in Mexico for all the bird/swine enthusiasts.


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