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Earle
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Message 41 of 64

12 May 2009 at 7:01am | IP Logged

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She has as much right to be heard as anyone else, so cut out your righteousness and pedantry and show a little tolerance and understanding. Please.

So, I take it you know "her" personally and that "she" is handicapped in some way? I think not. One would have to put a lot of effort (and I think "she" has) into butchering English in the way "she" has. If "she" had any credibility, he blew it...

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ennime
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Message 42 of 64

12 May 2009 at 7:54am | IP Logged

Vinbelgium wrote:

Alkeides wrote:

Vinbelgium wrote:

ennime wrote:

Vinbelgium wrote:

The written
language is completely the same, but
the spoken isn't.
There are the
significant differences, and I do not believe that the Flemish people understand the
spoken Dutch from The Netherlands perfectly.

As a native dutch speaker from Flanders, yes we can! we spend hours in front of the TV
watching Dutch channels (from NL) making fun of their accent, but we understand all of
it... every word, even the colloquialisms (which we find very funny often)

Well sorry, but I don't.

And yet both Dutch and Flemish are listed as your native languages :)

Yes. :) I was referring to the ' we spend hours in front of the TV watching Dutch
channels (from NL) making fun of their accent. '
I remember when I watched 'Baantjer' (you might know this series) on the VRT, I
couldn't understand a word of what they said. (but luckily it was subtitled).

Why is it listed as my native language? Because in fact it IS NOT A SEPARATE language.
It would be false to say Flemish is my native language, because officially it is not a
separate language. The written Dutch is almost equal to Flemish. The thing is that the
Flemish pronounce everything more in the French way, while the Dutch prefer the
English way. And this can lead to misunderstandings.

I was in Amsterdam a few weeks ago. I ran out of money, so I asked someone to show me
the way to the nearest bank. I had to ask beg my pardon for more than 4 times, till I
finally got what she meant. Is that normal??

Anyway. I'm anxious to see what you'll say about this.

Well, I guess the region I grew up in (East-Flanders, near border of Antwerp) the
spoken language among my generation (currently twenties) was not that dissimilar from
the standard one except for slang and the "soft g" my Dutch friends made fun of. I'm
not sure where you are from, because as I said before dialects in Flanders differ
considerably between regions in West-Flanders, East-Flanders, Brabant, etc.

I think you misunderstood some of my points, or maybe I did some of yours.

We both acknowledge that there are regional dialects which are quite different, we
both acknowledge that Flemish is not a separate language. What I am pointing out is
that there is no such thing as a "Flemish dialect/regional spoken language" or a
"Dutch (Nederlands) dialect/regional spoken language" since both within Flanders and
the Netherlands dialects are very diverse and dialects often cross the border between
the Netherlands and Flanders (e.g. Zeeuws Flanders, Limburg etc.)
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Jar-ptitsa
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Message 43 of 64

12 May 2009 at 10:37am | IP Logged

Earle wrote:

Charlmartell wrote:

She has as much right to be heard as anyone else, so cut out your
righteousness and pedantry and show a little tolerance and understanding. Please.

So, I take it you know "her" personally and that "she" is handicapped in some way? I think not. One would have
to put a lot of effort (and I think "she" has) into butchering English in the way "she" has. If "she" had any
credibility, he blew it...

Charlmartell,
Thank you.

Earle,

You mean that I'm not a girl, whne you write "she" and "he blew it"? i'm a girl. I know some people who vist this
forum, mayb they will confirm fro you, also on the forum which my father and brohter made, i made a
recording when i have talked in German and englihs. truly i',m not a boy. but, anyway, why is it's for you
important girl or boy?

about handicap, it dpend of the exact defintion: i havne't a physical hadnicap or mental one (I haven't low IQ)
I've paranoid schizohprenia (or called "psychosis", but not all the time).

I'm sorry for buthcer Englihs. sunja told me that my English is ok. I knwo that I make mistakes. my Dutch and
German are much better. Yes, Charlmartell know me since about one year or mroe but not in ym real live (on
the forum).I'm make more mistake when i'm nervous btu I like engish and I would like improve. sorry for all
those. I wrote sorry for the thigns please don't be angry wiht me.

Edited by Jar-ptitsa on 12 May 2009 at 10:38am
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Jar-ptitsa
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Message 44 of 64

12 May 2009 at 11:50am | IP Logged

Blijkbaar ben ik slager van het engls dus vanaf nu zal ik hier in hte nederladns schrijven of ben ik ook daarvan
zoiets nu? dat ben ik zeker niet en ook van het enegls niet en je moet nooit zulke gemeene digen tegen iemand
zeggen volegens mij . Ik heb nooit iemand beledigd ik heb alleen maar mijn meninggezegd en dt mag. hier haddne
we een gesprk over vlaams en nederlands dan ook engles en ik sanp niet wwarom ik dus een jongen zou moeten
zijn gewordn daar zit helemaal geen reden voor maar ik zl mijn foto hier niet plaatsen om te bewijzen waarom zou
dat ook moeten. Ik ben een MEISJE, was ik altijd en ben niet van plan om te verandern (ennime ik bedoel geen
kritiek op jou dat je trnsexueel bent, dat vind ik ¨überhaput geen probleem).
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Jar-ptitsa
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Message 45 of 64

12 May 2009 at 11:58am | IP Logged

Jar-ptitsa wrote:

translation for earle :

apparenly I'm butcher of English therfore now I write here only in Dutch. for sure I'm not buthcer of English or Dutch and you must never tell suhc nasty things to a perosn I think. I never
insluted a person but I told my opinion and it's allowd. Here we had a converstaion about flemish and Ducth then also englihs and I don't udnerstand why I therfore must become a boy
it's abolsutely no reason for thsi but I will not place my photo here for prove why would i have to. I'm a GIRL , was alwys and haven't plans to change (ennime i don't cfriticise you that
your'e transexuel, I find it absolutely no problme)
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Jar-ptitsa
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Message 46 of 64

12 May 2009 at 12:01pm | IP Logged

houd OP MIJ een jongen te noemne. Rot op en val dood, earle.

Shut up call me "he"

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Jar-ptitsa
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Message 47 of 64

12 May 2009 at 12:06pm | IP Logged

Earle wrote:

Quote:

She has as much right to be heard as anyone else, so cut out your righteousness and
pedantry and show a little tolerance and understanding. Please.

So, I take it you know "her" personally and that "she" is handicapped in some way? I think not. One would have
to put a lot of effort (and I think "she" has) into butchering English in the way "she" has. If "she" had any
credibility, he blew it...

shut up and leave me alone. Gott sei Dank kenne ich Ihnen nihct. Ich bin eine M¨ÅdEL kein Jungen. das können
Sie überhaput nicht wissen weil wir einandr NICHT kennen. YOU haven't credibility at all. Wie viele Sprahcen
sprechen Sie??? Engisch ist meine 5e Sprache.das ist völlig norml um Fehlre zu machen. Machen Sie keine Fehler
wenn Sie ihrer 5e Sprache schreieben? das kann ich mihc nicht vorstellen, also lass mich in Ruhe.
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Recht
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Message 48 of 64

12 May 2009 at 12:44pm | IP Logged

charlmartell wrote:

AnneNedjma wrote:

Jar-ptitsa- What happened to "If you can't
spell it, don't write it"? Please read through your comments before posting them, your
spelling mistakes are ridiculous!

Your remark is uncalled for because you should have realised that those are not really
spelling mistakes but the result of a genuine handicap. She has as much right to be
heard as anyone else, so cut out your righteousness and pedantry and show a little
tolerance and understanding. Please.

How on Earth could he have known that it is because of a supposed handicap beforehand?
Really, please tell me. I'm curious.

Maybe you should cut out the righteousness.

Edited by Recht on 12 May 2009 at 12:44pm

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