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Cainntear
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 Message 41 of 67
17 July 2009 at 10:07pm | IP Logged 
reineke wrote:
Kato has been misinterpreted by everyone here. She used both conventional and unconventional means to study foreign languages.

Erm.. that'd not be everyone, then, because as far as I can see that's exactly what Ashley said.
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healing332
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 Message 42 of 67
17 July 2009 at 10:42pm | IP Logged 
I have discovered that a small portable dvd player(very cheap in the USA) draws me deeper in when disecting my movies..also i pickup words that I may miss on a regular living room dvd player..the headphones and small dvd screen inches away from me really helps me focus on the movie. Also new language subtitles and new language speech in same film is very stimulating but hard to find movies like this..

But you can use lingq "intermediate podcast in any language" to listen to dialogue and read along as a subtitute..not as good as a movie though

Edited by healing332 on 17 July 2009 at 10:44pm
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Caveben
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 Message 43 of 67
17 July 2009 at 10:48pm | IP Logged 
healing332 wrote:

As USUAL Ashley you are lost in the woods...What this girl has done is ONE PART of what I have said to do.. along with the non translated readings and Speaking from day one!!!!.
You are right about one thing you are a SKEPTIC PERIOD and you are limiting people with your silly limiting comments..Thank Goodness the majority of people reading these post will be as bored with your replies as I am and will learn their language the way I have outlined!
As for Wiki.You think I wrote Wiki?

To be perfectly honest I am more bored by your disrespectful tone, repeated posting of the same content in multiple threads and your misrepresentation of questionable research than Ashley's replies which cite credible sources and proven fact and have a less abrasive style. Ashley has pointed out obvious logical and scientific flaws in your statements but now it seems you are trying to make this a personal issue. No one is trying to limit you, watch all the Spanish porn you want. But please don't try to tell people that their way is wrong as the amount of multilingual people in the world presents another obvious problem to your claims.

As for your question, I think it is perfectly obvious to everyone that she is not accusing you of that as you well know.
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tricoteuse
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 Message 44 of 67
17 July 2009 at 11:48pm | IP Logged 
healing332, if you are going to post everywhere all the time, would it be too much to ask to beg you to actually structure your posts, use standard writing rules, etc.? I think it's part of the “If you can't spell it, don't write it.” idea. Don't just put everything in caps and think people will agree quicker if you do so. What is your native language by the way?

Plus, people who throw foreign words into conversations are only annoying and disrespectful.
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healing332
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 Message 45 of 67
18 July 2009 at 12:10am | IP Logged 
tricoteuse wrote:
healing332, if you are going to post everywhere all the time, would it be too much to ask to beg you to actually structure your posts, use standard writing rules, etc.? I think it's part of the “If you can't spell it, don't write it.” idea. Don't just put everything in caps and think people will agree quicker if you do so.


Its a deal!

Edited by healing332 on 18 July 2009 at 12:13am
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healing332
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 Message 46 of 67
18 July 2009 at 12:14am | IP Logged 
tricoteuse wrote:


Plus, people who throw foreign words into conversations are only annoying and disrespectful.


I have found completely the opposite reaction on this point..
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patuco
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 Message 47 of 67
18 July 2009 at 12:41am | IP Logged 
I've already warned you so as from now, the next time you multiple post I will remove the last posts. I haven't got the time (or the inclination) to edit all your posts just because you can't be bothered to do so.
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jpxt2
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 Message 48 of 67
18 July 2009 at 2:06am | IP Logged 
Pyx wrote:
jpxt2 wrote:
Pyx wrote:
fairyfountain wrote:
I will have to agree with the minority. I have been using Khatz's method, and it is fantastic. I'm not even 1K through my listening challenge, and I already feel like I can speak English much better. Native accents don't seem to be the most difficult thing to acquire either, if you ask me. Anyway :p

AJATT is in a totally different ballpark. It's not "I just 'dissect' movies and annoy everybody around me by mixing in words of my target language", it's "I immerse myself AND learn very very f*cking hard". Remember that 10000 sentences thingy? That takes a lot of time, work, and devotion.
So, guys, please stop confusing AJATT with "effortless acquisition through exposure". It's not the same.

WRONG, the study is NEVER NEVER NEVER supposed to be "hard" according to Khatzumoto himself. Go back and read his site a bit more until you get it.


That's bull. What he says is to enjoy the work and nobody argues with that. It's still much and hard work. Go follow your own advice. You may start here for example, where he says exactly that: http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/whats-its-like-in- the-beginning-and-you-dont-know-jack-or-how-to-watch-japanes e-tv

Reineke, jfyi, he's quite aware of that and addresses that somewhere. I can't be bothered to find the link now, but he essentially said he believes Krashen introduced i+1 only not to crush the motivation of the learner when experiencing target language material, who otherwise might understand hardly a word. If you're motivated enough as is, so Khatz, 'i' doesn't really matter.


Go read some of his newer stuff (something that wasn't written two years ago.)
http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/processes-not-resu lts-or-everything-i-ever-needed-to-know-about-life-i-learned -washing-dishes

Edited by jpxt2 on 18 July 2009 at 2:13am


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