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| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes  Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German | Message 17 of 115 02 August 2009 at 12:31am | IP Logged |
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Listened to the Teach Yourself CD for Units 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9.
4 through 8 are quite easy. I missed a few phrases in Dialogue 9, but still did much much better than my last run-through without the text. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German | Message 18 of 115 02 August 2009 at 4:35am | IP Logged |
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I have located the text for FSI Swahili.
http://fsi-language-courses.org/Courses/Swahili/Basic/FSI%20 -%20Swahili%20Basic%20Course%20-%20Student%20Text.pdf About FSI--I have heard many good things about it, but I occasionally hear that it is outdated...is it still a useful program? It certainly is thorough and has many hours of listening practice. I was, however, able to look through the transcipt for the parts I struggled with and could not figure out in Units 20 and 21. I spent probably half an hour listening and relistening to the speaker, trying to figure out the word based on phonetics, and typing it into an online dicionary. The word I heard was "kunambi." It was unfamiliar, so I typed it into the dictionary. Nothing. I tried kunambe, kunamba, kunaambi, kunaambe, nambi, nambe, kung'ambi, konambi, konambe, khunambi--NOTHING. Kunambi, it turns out, is someone's name. Sultan Kunambi. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German | Message 19 of 115 02 August 2009 at 5:20pm | IP Logged |
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I'm starting off the day with some Swahili proverbs. They are cool because there are lots of relative pronouns, which is practice. And they're a good vocabulary builder. And they are fun! Here are some of my favorites (translated in French and English):
Aachaye kweli huirudia Celui qui laisse la vérité derrière lui, y retourne (c-à-d. Une personne qui a fait du bien quelque part, quand elle revient on l'accueille à bras ouverts) He who leaves truth behind, returns to it Ada ya mja kunena, muungwana ni kitendo Un homme parle, mais un gentleman agit A man talks but a gentleman acts Adui mpende (Note: plural of "adui" is "maadui") Aimez votre ennemi Love your enemy Adui ya mtu ni mtu L'homme est son propre ennemi The enemy of man is man Akili ni mali L'intelligence est un capital Intelligence is an asset Anayefikiri amesimama, aangalie asianguke Celui qui pense qu'il est debout devrait prendre garde à ne pas tomber He who thinks he is standing, should be on his guard not to fall down Asiyefunzwa na mamae hufunzwa na ulimwengu Celui que sa mère n'a pas enseigné, le monde s'en chargera He/she who is not taught by his/her mother will be taught my the world Avumaye baharini papa kumbe wengine wapo Celui qui se vante dans l'océan c'est le requin, mais il y en a beaucoup d'autres Shark is the famous one in the sea but there are many others Baada ya dhiki faraja Après les difficultés, le secours After hardship comes relief Chombo cha kuzama hakina usukani Un vaisseau en perdition n'a pas besoin de navigation A sinking vessel needs no navigation Elimu haina mwisho L'éducation n'a pas de fin Education has no ending Hakuna msiba usio na mwenziwe Un malheur n'arrive jamais seul Misfortune never comes alone Hasira, hasara La colère est mauvaise conseillère Anger brings loss Hucheka kovu asiye kuwa na jeraha Il se moque d'une blessure, celui qui n'a pas été blessé He laughs at scar who has received no wound 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German | Message 20 of 115 02 August 2009 at 8:05pm | IP Logged |
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I've found a website that lets you read children's books in Swahili. I've read the first chapter of this book: http://www.childrenslibrary.org/icdl/BookPreview?bookid=dumh aib_00590005&route=africa&lang=English&msg=&ilang=English
Understood around 60-70% of what happened. Other books here: http://www.childrenslibrary.org/icdl/ResultByWorld?area=5&co untry=0&view=cover&start=0&type=0&sort=title&ilang=English I'll be returning to Chapter 2 later. Also read the first three fables here: http://www.childrenslibrary.org/icdl/BookReader?bookid=manha d2_00590007&twoPage=true&route=africa&size=16&fullscreen=fal se&pnum1=12&pnum2=13&lang=English&ilang=English&tsize=0 Hadithi za Esopo. They're very good!!! Edited by Rhoda on 02 August 2009 at 8:24pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| bouda Senior Member United States Joined 5601 days ago 194 posts - 197 votes Speaks: English* | Message 21 of 115 02 August 2009 at 9:23pm | IP Logged |
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I don't have anything to say about Swahili, but I love that website you mentioned! I
found it early on because of their 28 Arabic children's books. I'm glad to see that other people are getting use of it, too. Good luck with your studies! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German | Message 22 of 115 03 August 2009 at 12:28am | IP Logged |
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It is a great site! I noticed there were a lot of Arabic books too--makes me want to learn Arabic.
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| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German | Message 23 of 115 03 August 2009 at 12:54am | IP Logged |
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Did a little work this evening...
Watched about 10 minutes of a Swahili TV show on Youtube. Read the text for FSI Units 21, 22, & 23 (no 24 or 25 because the concepts are a little old & formal). A good deal of Unit 24 is rather formal for everyday conversation. There is no compressed -sha- form. There is also some stuff about adjective stems preceded by subject prefixes...not mentioned in any of the more up-to-date programs I'm using and not really necessary anyway. I do love FSI though, it may be from the late 60's, but it is very thorough and helpful. I guess I'll listen to those units tomorrow. Reread proverbs. Then I buckled down and delved into Teach Yourself. First, I finished reading about relative pronouns. (And there was a lot to read and process.) I'll definitely be rereading! Afterwards, I reread the Unit 9 dialogue and deciphered the section I had trouble with. Painstaking stuff. Then I went into Unit 10. Yikesss. But I had that same feeling when I started Unit 3...and Unit 4...and Unit 5...and so on. So in another two weeks, Unit 10 will be easy-peasy lemon squeezey. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I did not make any progress in my French book today but am planning to continue reading tomorrow. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A plan of attack for tomorrow... 1) Listen to FSI 21-23 2) Review all types of relative pronouns 3) Read and listen to Unit 9 TY dialogue 4) Read Chap 2 of Haiba & the Seven Dwarves 5) Read 3 more fables in Hadithi za Esopo 6) Read another 5-10 pages or so of Bienvenue au Club 7) Um, have a life...work out, read a mindless novel, work on a mindless novel of my own haha, & lots of other things. Edited by Rhoda on 04 August 2009 at 3:38pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5604 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German | Message 24 of 115 03 August 2009 at 5:07pm | IP Logged |
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1) Listened to FSI 21, 22 and 23. (Note: according to TY, it's "ng'ombe wangu-->ng'ombe zangu").
2) Listened twice to the second part of TY Unit 9 dialogue, first with, then without text. 3) Read Chapter 2 of Haiba and the Seven Dwarves (~70-75% comprehension with some dictionary use) 4) Read 4 fables in Hadithi za Esopo (~85-90% comprehension with some dictionary use) 5) I decided to skip an intensive session on relative pronouns and instead head back to TY Unit 10. I understand the concepts in Unit 10 now, just need some review. 6) J'ai lu quelques pages de Bienvenue au Club. Le pauvre Crac a des voisins peu amicals. Mémere essaye de le mordre, et Magicien l'ignore. Puis, quand il travaille avec sa Cavalière, il veut dire bonjour aux autres chevaux, et il est l'instigateur d'une débandade. Ensuite, il est au pré avec les Poneys, mais ils ne l'aiment pas. Il est dans une mauvaise passe! Edited by Rhoda on 04 August 2009 at 5:37am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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