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Papiamento - spoken on Aruba and Curaçao | ||
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| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5482 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 17 of 57 09 May 2010 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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I would definitely like to learn Papiamento some day (the Papiamento of Aruba most likely as it can vary from place
to place). I would most likely tackle Dutch first, as I really do want to learn Dutch, but also as I can see from this thread, Papiamento materials would most likely be better if one is learning the language Dutch-Papiamento rather than English Papiamento. I'd imagine that the grammar would be relatively simple. Could anyone provide any insight onto any more information about the language? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| urubu Pentaglot Groupie Germany Joined 6607 days ago 49 posts - 72 votes Speaks: German*, Dutch, Portuguese, Indonesian, English | Message 18 of 57 09 May 2010 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | ||
This blog has a lot of excellent info on Papiamento: http://www.pagef30.com/search/label/Papiamento Especially this post: http://www.pagef30.com/2009/03/why-language-called-papiament u-might-be.html 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| kyssäkaali Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5554 days ago 203 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish | Message 19 of 57 09 May 2010 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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I dunno if this has been asked already, but how close is this language to Spanish? I've also been intrigued by Papiamento/u for some time but would hate to learn a Spanish clone...
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| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7104 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 20 of 57 09 May 2010 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for that. I tried it out and the course is now on order from Amazon UK. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| urubu Pentaglot Groupie Germany Joined 6607 days ago 49 posts - 72 votes Speaks: German*, Dutch, Portuguese, Indonesian, English | Message 21 of 57 09 May 2010 at 11:44pm | IP Logged | ||
Except for the -nan plural and the lo/ta/tabata/tabatin particles instead of verb conjugation, I think it basically is a Spanish clone (on a creole Portuguese base, with a generous helping of Dutch added for good measure). Rather similar to Afrikaans vs. Dutch, come to think of it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7222 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 22 of 57 10 May 2010 at 11:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just contacted the administrator about Papiamento and has added the language on the list. Now members can choose to put it on their hit, studying or speaks list. IMO I do not think it is a Spanish clone, but labels on creoles are difficult to explain exactly. Example the Spanish based creole Chavacano. I read some people say it is not Spanish. While others say it is, but broken Spanish. I do not think Chavacano is Spanish, but a language on it's own. Like what I just wrote it is opinion 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5336 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2 Studies: French | Message 23 of 57 10 May 2010 at 11:41pm | IP Logged | ||
Thank you alang! I'm going to put it on my list right away. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7104 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 24 of 57 11 May 2010 at 7:48am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for doing that. Andy. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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