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| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5585 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 1 of 96 25 September 2009 at 4:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Are there any forum members here that have studied a language on their own to native fluency?
Are you able to freely express yourself, describe, and read as a native would? Idioms and colloquialisms? I was just wondering if it actually was possible through self study, If I'm going to pursue 3 languages, I want native fluency in all of them. How many languages can you pursue to native fluency? and what was the most ever known? thanks :) -Jordan 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5575 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 2 of 96 25 September 2009 at 6:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Of course it's possible but one needs patience. Think about how long it has taken one to "master" one's own native language. I think it's only after high school we have an extensive command of grammar, vocabulary, expression and extensive written abilities. That being said the advantage is that as adults we understand a language; this gives us tremendous leverage if used correctly to master foreign grammatical concepts. Through the use of our native language we gain insight into the structure of another language. Hence, while it may have taken us 18 years to "master" our native tongue; as adults we are able to learn much more rapidly as children.
We can apply logic, passion, interest and drive to advance at much rate than with our mother tongue. Takes tons of work+time but completely possible. I think I'll reach French to "Fluency" in about another 5 months. I can already express myself and comprehend a ton, but there's still a lot to learn. I think I can reach "conversational" Russian in maybe another year and a half. I plan on starting German around then (or Mandarin haven't decided). Edited by LatinoBoy84 on 25 September 2009 at 7:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5585 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 3 of 96 25 September 2009 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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That's exactly what I was thinking. See you're pretty much natively fluent in English, and Spanish. I can tell by the way you speak. It's so impressive when people know languages that well. Hopefully I can learn your language like you have learned mine. :)
thanks for the input. -Jordan 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| lachat Triglot Newbie Joined 5563 days ago 23 posts - 26 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch, French Studies: Italian | Message 4 of 96 25 September 2009 at 9:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It can be done living in the target Country helps a lot. My girlfriend has not studied any Dutch and she is word perfect.
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| Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5677 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish | Message 5 of 96 25 September 2009 at 9:39pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Latinoboy: Just out of curiosity, when did you start learning French?
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| Bruce Groupie United States Joined 6223 days ago 65 posts - 65 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, French, German | Message 6 of 96 25 September 2009 at 11:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
Native fluency in 3 foreign languages? That would be incredibly impressive. I can't imagine the work that would take. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5909 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 7 of 96 25 September 2009 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
If people who grow up speaking a language other than English and only study English in school can get to native-level fluency by their early 20s then I don't see why the same thing shouldn't be possible for other languages as well. Knowing every aspect of culture as well as a native speaker does would probably be difficult for that many languages - or indeed for any foreign language - but I don't think not knowing all the obscure stuff that goes on in a language would need to be a handicap for a learner who speaks it well. If you can do it for one language, why not a couple more. Personally I think being indistinguishable from a native speaker would be the ultimate goal for any language I'm serious about (I'm not that serious about all my languages) and frankly it never crossed my mind that this should for whatever reason be impossible to achieve. It might take time, but I figure if the natives can do it then we can do it - albeit using a different method adapted to our needs, but still... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6439 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 8 of 96 25 September 2009 at 11:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
The forum member "Gilgamesh" is pretty close. He's an incredibly talented guy too. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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