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Woodpecker
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 Message 17 of 53
12 October 2009 at 7:29am | IP Logged 
The most huge and obvious difference between Arabic and Hebrew is that one doesn't have to learn two languages to communicate effectively in Hebrew.
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Ulrike
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 Message 18 of 53
12 October 2009 at 11:19am | IP Logged 
Working through an Arabic textbook I have come to the conclusion that the biggest difficulty to me is the pronounciation of the emphatic consonants. Everything else cannot be learned as quickly as if it was a part of an indo-european language. With a little bit of patience and some hard work it can be achieved.
Myself I try to work a little bit every day. A quarter of an hour or half an hour is better than not study at all and I notice a slow, but steady progress.
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snoppingasusual
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 Message 19 of 53
12 October 2009 at 4:29pm | IP Logged 
Woodpecker wrote:
2. Almost all countries are feminine.
Ex. مِصْر - miSr - Egypt


Six exceptions to this rule are: Qwait, Lebanon, Sudan, Iraq, Jordan, and Morocco.
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 Message 20 of 53
12 October 2009 at 9:15pm | IP Logged 
I definitely do not get why people make such a big fuzz about Arabic alphabet. It was seriously the easiest aspect of Arabic. It's like cursive.
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Woodpecker
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 Message 21 of 53
12 October 2009 at 10:05pm | IP Logged 
Fazla wrote:
I definitely do not get why people make such a big fuzz about Arabic alphabet. It was seriously the easiest aspect of Arabic. It's like cursive.


I think that's a very good point. Not only is the script not hard to learn, it's very efficient. Assuming I can think at equal speed, I can actually already write in Arabic faster than I can write in English, and my Arabic is still quite bad. Perhaps it's because my handwriting stinks, but still, there's something to be said for the efficacy of a standardized cursive.
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 Message 22 of 53
12 October 2009 at 10:49pm | IP Logged 

I am glad someone pointed out that it is like "cursive." That's exactly how I see it too.

It is like right->left cursive. Also, I don't think it's really that hard to read/write it at all. It *looks* intimidating but when you get the hang of it, it's quite easy.

Oddly enough, I also find it easier and faster to read right --> left. It feels very natural.


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delta910
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 Message 23 of 53
12 October 2009 at 11:17pm | IP Logged 
Fazla wrote:
I definitely do not get why people make such a big fuzz about Arabic alphabet. It was seriously the easiest aspect of Arabic. It's like cursive.


I agree. The script was really easy to learn. To me the hardest thing about the language would be some of the sounds and some grammar but other than that. I don't find it that difficult.

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ANK47
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 Message 24 of 53
13 October 2009 at 3:20am | IP Logged 
Why is Arabic difficult for English speakers?

Well, it is totally foreign. You have to start from scratch. Never having studied French an English speaker can understand many of the words due to the many Latin roots that both French and English share. Succomber = to succumb, traverse = to cross (to traverse), fixer = to fix. You know 1/4 of the language before you even start learning it. On the other hand, Arabic is entirely foreign to English. You get no head start on Arabic if you know English.

Another thing that plays a part in making Arabic difficult is the fact that there are so many dialects. If someone is learning English, once you know one version of English, let's say British English, you can pretty much understand any English. With Arabic, once you know MSA you aren't going to be able to understand the dialects without studying them specifically. There are many similarities that you notice once you start learning a dialect (and already know MSA) which make the dialects easier to learn than if you had just started learning one without first studying MSA, but it still isn't simple to learn them.

Something that seems to be obvious that make Arabic difficult is the pronunciation. I know people who have been studying Arabic for years but who still are not understood by Arabs. They speak Arabic with an American accent which is something you really can't do if you want to be understood. Personally I think accent is something some people are just born being able to imitate. It's not something you can learn as far as I'm concerned. Many people who have been studying a language for a long time and even living in the country for decades still have accents. It's a rare person who can learn a language and speak it without an accent. Arabs are really amazed when they come across a person who learned Arabic and speaks it like a native (or even close to a native proficiency). Here is a video of an Irish guy speaking Saudi Arabic like a native. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLTZminxf6Q&feature=related They had the guy on TV just because of how well he could speak Arabic. That says something about how rare it is to find someone who isn't a native Arab who can speak Arabic fluently and without accent. There are just so many letters that aren't found in English (or in ANY language for that matter).




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