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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5453 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 73 of 100 08 February 2010 at 12:04am | IP Logged | |||||
Well, some Valencians insist on them being different languages. If you actually compare the Catalan spoken and written in Catalonia and the Valencian spoken and written in Valencia, you'll find so many similarties that it is hard to see how anyone could come to the conclusion that they are different languages and not dialects/variants of the same language. In my view this is just as absurd as someone insisting on that in Austria they don't speak German, in the Unitied States and Australia they don't speak English and in Mexico and Chile they don't speak Spanish.
My impression is that they are not really insisting, rather just using different names. Edited by tractor on 08 February 2010 at 12:07am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 74 of 100 08 February 2010 at 12:29am | IP Logged | |||||
Serbian (and Montenegrin) can be expressed either in Cyrillic or Latin script. Yet I doubt that anyone in the Balkans would define Serbian or Montenegrin expressed in Cyrillic script as a different language from Serbian or Montenegrin expressed in the Latin script. In an analogous way if it were mandated that American English could be expressed henceforth either in a new Cyrillic alphabet or the Latin alphabet, would that then make American English in Cyrillic a different language from British or Canadian English, or even American English that's expressed with the conventional alphabet? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Rabochnok Diglot Newbie Colombia Joined 5610 days ago 37 posts - 59 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Turkish, Persian | Message 75 of 100 08 February 2010 at 2:05am | IP Logged | |||||
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Persian in Iran, Dari in Afghanistan, Tajiki in Tajikistan, for another example of different names in different countries (both in their own countries and among foreigners discussing them). Edited by Rabochnok on 08 February 2010 at 2:07am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Rabochnok Diglot Newbie Colombia Joined 5610 days ago 37 posts - 59 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Turkish, Persian | Message 76 of 100 08 February 2010 at 2:13am | IP Logged | |||||
At first, no. But if it persisted long enough (I don't know how long, though), and enough culture was produced in it (literature, etc.; but what's "enough"?).... maybe. It'd depend on how the people using it felt, I guess. Edited by Rabochnok on 08 February 2010 at 2:14am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5521 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish* | Message 77 of 100 08 February 2010 at 10:20am | IP Logged | |||||
Well, a lot of South Slavs insist that Serbian, Croatian and even Bosnian are separate languages, there are probably even people that put Montengrin as a separate language. The differences within Serbia are not much smaller than between Serbia and Croatia, it's just a political thing. Edited by Gusutafu on 08 February 2010 at 1:45pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Aleksey Groz Tetraglot Newbie Yugoslavia Joined 5369 days ago 14 posts - 19 votes Speaks: Serbo-Croatian*, English, Czech, FrenchB2 | Message 78 of 100 29 April 2010 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
There could be two reasons: 1) as someone already said, many Eastern European languages are/were (wrongly) considered as Slavic. 2) 30% of Romanian vocabulary is of Slavic origin! (I think that this could be a real reason of that misunderstanding) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Aleksey Groz Tetraglot Newbie Yugoslavia Joined 5369 days ago 14 posts - 19 votes Speaks: Serbo-Croatian*, English, Czech, FrenchB2 | Message 79 of 100 29 April 2010 at 9:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
Serbian uses both Cyrillic and Latin scripts, so this can not be an argument. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zooplah Diglot Senior Member United States zooplah.farvista.net Joined 6368 days ago 100 posts - 116 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: German | Message 80 of 100 29 April 2010 at 10:09pm | IP Logged | |||||
From what I've seen of Romanian, it doesn't look Romance at all. From the superficial aspects of it, we'd assume it was Slavic. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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