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EmmiInEurope
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 Message 241 of 509
17 January 2011 at 9:26pm | IP Logged 
ReneeMona wrote:

Learning the de/het is certainly important, if only so you don't sound like an idiot.
;-)
What I do with French is that I always learn the gender with the word and I also use
colour. So when I learn the words vie and cœur I learn them as la vie and le cœur and I
will make la vie orange in my word list and le cœur green. That way when I think of the
word it has a colour in my mind that helps me remember the gender. And like tommus
said, after a while you've heard the word enough to just know.


Problem is that I'm Afrikaans speaking, so already know all the words - just never had
the opportunity to learn the de/het with the words. To do this post the fact is so
tough. Like the idea of colourcoding!

Thanks Tommus for the link, will check it out.

Jank, if you don't call it gender, what do you call it?

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ReneeMona
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 Message 243 of 509
17 January 2011 at 9:53pm | IP Logged 
EmmiInEurope wrote:
Problem is that I'm Afrikaans speaking, so already know all the words


I forgot to take a look at the languages you already speak. I suppose that would make it harder. You could perhaps find a list of het-words, since they are less common than de-words and learn those by heart. Or you could simply read and listen a lot and wait for them to sink in naturally, though that might take a while.
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tracker465
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 Message 244 of 509
18 January 2011 at 4:24am | IP Logged 
JanKG wrote:
That is certainly a very good idea, but it might even be better to think in marked vs. unmarked categories and just use one colour, I have been thinking recently.

I mean: just mark the het words, they are certainly way fewer in number. But indeed the difference between het/ de is quite important, but I would not call it gender.


When I studied German, I always memorized the gender with the noun. With Dutch, since there are only "het" and "de" words to worry about, I only memorize the "het" since they are fewer in number, and then the others will naturally be "de"
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JanKG
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 Message 245 of 509
18 January 2011 at 7:46am | IP Logged 
Kuikentje wrote:
JanKG wrote:


But indeed the difference between het/ de is quite important, but I would not call it gender.


yes it's gender: de = m/f and het = n


I must agree here ;-), but because 'de' does not allow to distinguish m and f, I was inclined not to call them gender markers. But I suppose I have to agree they are.
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Vini
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 Message 246 of 509
19 January 2011 at 9:52pm | IP Logged 
"is" comes often in the end of sentence, or it must ALWAYS come in the end of sentence?

For example: "Ik denk dat hij dikwijls niet zo geduldig is", ""Hij vertelt dat het altijd mooi is"
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JanKG
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 Message 247 of 509
19 January 2011 at 9:58pm | IP Logged 
No, no, the 'is' is just one conjugated verb, and conjugated verbs are put

- right after the subject in main clauses
- at the end of a subclause

That is the main rule. Example:
Hij is dikwijls niet zo geduldig (main clause)
"Ik denk dat (introducing a subclause) hij dikwijls niet zo geduldig is",

Edited by JanKG on 19 January 2011 at 9:59pm

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krieger
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 Message 248 of 509
20 January 2011 at 4:41am | IP Logged 
Any good books or programs for a beginner Dutch learner? I have been doing studying on Livemocha, is there any better site for a Dutch learner?


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