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 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5848 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes  1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 273 of 509 03 February 2011 at 6:17am | IP Logged | ||
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Very interesting: I have never heard the word curieuzeneuzemosterdpot. Beginners of Dutch will have some difficulties to pronounce it. Thanks for the explanations, ReneeMona and Jan.
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| JanKG Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5768 days ago 245 posts - 280 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Italian, Finnish | Message 274 of 509 03 February 2011 at 6:23am | IP Logged | ||
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You're welcome, but please only use "curieuzeneus" and "mosterdpot" separately! ;-)
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| Spikada Newbie Canada Joined 5047 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes | Message 275 of 509 05 February 2011 at 7:33am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks so much for your time and kindness to do this for me. You made my day!!! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JanKG Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5768 days ago 245 posts - 280 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Italian, Finnish | Message 276 of 509 07 February 2011 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | ||
I'd like to let the Right Honourable Members of this Club know that there is now a new word for this kind of communication: "schootnota' or lap note. This is the official explanation: "Wie een belangrijk gesprek moet voeren, zet graag een lijstje kernpunten en wat persoonlijke notities op papier. Zo'n geheugensteuntje werd in 2007 voor het eerst een schootnota genoemd. Toen hebben journalisten foto's gemaakt van het A4'tje dat ontmijner Jean-Luc Dehaene op zijn schoot had liggen toen hij naar de koning reed. Sindsdien duiken er in de politieke berichtgeving geregeld foto's van schootnota's op. Strikt genomen gaat het overigens niet om nota's, maar om notities: een nota is een geschrift met een officiële mededeling." However, I would not be surprised if this word were not "long-lived"... :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5867 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish | Message 277 of 509 07 February 2011 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | ||
Is 'ontmijner' a word that is unique in this context to the formation of governments or political negotiations? I don't think English would use 'demining' in this sense. It certainly would be used for clearing minefields, but probably not political minefields. Perhaps we would use the word/expression 'troubleshooter' or 'clearing the way' in this context. You could also 'defuse' a dangerous or tense situation. Maybe there is a political word for demining that I can't think of at the moment. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JanKG Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5768 days ago 245 posts - 280 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Italian, Finnish | Message 278 of 509 07 February 2011 at 7:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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No, it isn't: it is a metaphorical use of the military term. This meaning does not seem that old to me. A decade maybe... (Just BTW: This military clearing of minefields happens to be some kind of Belgian specialty, so I have learnt.)
'Troubleshooter' or 'clearing the way' would not really do here because 'ontmijner' suggests a hazardous, even explosive situation (not only difficult): it suggests lots of dangerous things are about to happen if our 'deminer' does not get his work done. (Do give us some more words referring to 'defusing' dangerous ('tense' ?) situations. I like that ! ;-)) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5867 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish | Message 279 of 509 08 February 2011 at 12:20am | IP Logged | ||
Websters dictionary offers a very detailed answer to your request. See the full list at the link below. Here is a sample. The formatting will not be very good. Rank Intensity ; Word & nbsp; Synonyms ; Synonyms of synonym 1 13.0596 defusing &nbs p; defuse soothe, allay, appease, deactivate, disarm 2 10.3093 defusing &nbs p; pacifying &nb sp; salving, alleviating, satisfying, propitiating, attempering 3 9.0292 defusing &nbs p; deactivate &n bsp; disable, defuse, disband, dissolve, discontinue 4 7.3094 defusing &nbs p; quelling &nbs p; alleviating, salving, dampening, attempering, satisfying 5 7.3093 defusing &nbs p; smoothing &nb sp; evening, leveling, levelling, flatting, sleeking 6 6.3094 defusing &nbs p; unarming &nbs p; uncocking, dismantling, unrigging, disjointing, unloading 7 5.3094 defusing &nbs p; soothing &nbs p; appeasing, calming, allaying, assuaging, mollifying 8 5.3094 defusing &nbs p; abating ; relieving, abate, curtailing, demolishing, relaxing 9 5.3094 defusing &nbs p; lulling ; hushing, pacifying, pausing, recessing, assuaging 10 5.3090 defusing &nbs p; tranquilizing ; calm, soothe, tranquilize, easing, appease 11 5.0092 defusing &nbs p; relieve ; help, alleviate, allay, ease, assist 12 5.0092 defusing &nbs p; lighten ; illuminate, enlighten, brighten, light, relieve 13 4.3296 defusing &nbs p; delaying &nbs p; delay, respiting, staying, lag, lating 14 4.3295 defusing &nbs p; detaining &nb sp; maintaining, preserving, conserving, staying, attaching 15 4.3194 defusing &nbs p; disabling &nb sp; disallowing, denying, rejecting, waiving, refusing http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/defusi ng?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3 A9&ie=UTF-8&q=defusing&sa=Search#906 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| JanKG Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5768 days ago 245 posts - 280 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Italian, Finnish | Message 280 of 509 08 February 2011 at 5:44am | IP Logged | ||
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Interesting, I thought it was more difficult - but these are indeed kind-of synonyms.
I had been thinking of metaphors and therefore thought one could not find them. But I suppose that would indeed be more difficult at phrase level --- or would you have a way of finding synonyms of phrases/ expressions/... ? I mean: would you be able to find synonyms of 'beat around the bush' as a phrase? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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