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LatinoBoy84
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 Message 1 of 16
23 November 2009 at 3:39am | IP Logged 
Hi everyone,

Many of us have native languages that other people are studying. I'm sure there are a number of Books and Programs that are of extremely high quality, that many of us are unaware of because we did not grow up the county of the language.   For example I'm sure there are some excellent Turkish learning materials in German, or brilliant materials in Russian for any of the Ex-Soviet state languages, perhaps Korean books on Japanese,Spanish materials for Portuguese etc.

Given that many of us study these languages, we would eventually acquire enough knowledge to be able use other "base languages". Many of us who are learning French for example will probably take advantage of Assimil's rather extensive (French Base) selection.   

If you have experience of knowledge of some quality materials (in a language other than English) please share: 1)the base language(s) 2)target language(s) in the "series" 3)the country of origin 4)publisher 5)were one might be able to purchase the materials. Also if possible give a summary of the materials, style of the content and overall quality.

Edited by LatinoBoy84 on 26 November 2009 at 11:43pm

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alang
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23 November 2009 at 4:03am | IP Logged 

I started a similar thread for reference last summer. There were restrictions, as I wanted to avoid repetition. Example was to not mention the other language bases Prof. Arguelles has on his videos. I think only two people responded, in addition to my own findings.

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Gusutafu
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 Message 3 of 16
23 November 2009 at 12:44pm | IP Logged 
In addition to the profusion of material, it can be a very good idea to study for example Polish through Russian, since you will otherwise when the English based textbook goes on and on about verbal aspect, palatalisation, verbs of motion etc, things that you are already very familiar with. Similarly (but also kind of vice versa), I wouldn't learn Icelandic through English, since Swedish is so much closer.

Unfortunately, there is probably no way to utilise your knowledge of TWO languages when learning a third...
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Volte
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23 November 2009 at 1:26pm | IP Logged 
Gusutafu wrote:
In addition to the profusion of material, it can be a very good idea to study for example Polish through Russian, (...)

Unfortunately, there is probably no way to utilise your knowledge of TWO languages when learning a third...


Of course there are ways - you can actively observe and find similarities and differences. There are even some materials which are useful for this - multilingual parallel texts, and a few books which draw comparisons, for example. Barring parallel texts, even reading the same book in several related languages, one after another, is useful.

Two excellent books that come to mind: R. G. A. de Bray's "Guide to the Slavonic Languages", Bodmer's "The Loom of Languages" (this is mainly useful for the Romance and Germanic languages). On the less serious but still somewhat interesting side, EuroComGerm's "Die sieben Siebe" is somewhat useful for the Romance languages - there was a link to download it free from their website a few years ago.

All of these books have previously been discussed at more length on this forum.

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Captain Haddock
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23 November 2009 at 2:52pm | IP Logged 
Without mentioning any books specifically, I would say there are better materials for learning Korean, Mandarin,
and Thai in Japanese than in English.
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Splog
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23 November 2009 at 2:57pm | IP Logged 
Volte wrote:
R. G. A. de Bray's "Guide to the Slavonic Languages"


I was quite excited by that recommendation (thank you!). Then I looked it up on Amazon, and found that the volume that most interested is for sale for a whopping $411.79 :-(
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Volte
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23 November 2009 at 5:03pm | IP Logged 
Splog wrote:
Volte wrote:
R. G. A. de Bray's "Guide to the Slavonic Languages"


I was quite excited by that recommendation (thank you!). Then I looked it up on Amazon, and found that the volume that most interested is for sale for a whopping $411.79 :-(


The cheapest copy on abebooks.com is less than $10 - plus shipping.

Edit - that's "Guide to the Slavonic Languages: Guide to the East Slavonic Languages: 003". The only volume I'm personally familiar with is simply the "Guide to the Slavonic languages", without an Eastern or Western subtitle, second revised edition. Something by this title (minus information on the revision) starts at about $35 plus shipping for a slightly beaten-up copy, and for a few bucks more, there are other sellers.

Second edit: The languages covered in my copy of the book are Old Slavonic (Old Bulgarian), Russian, Ukrainian, Byelorussian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Serbocroatian, Slovenian, Czech, Slovak, Polish, and Lusatian (or Wendish). The book briefly sketches morphology, characteristic features, a bit of information on dialects, writing system and pronunciations, and differences between the languages, for each language, as well as providing short sample texts in each.


Edited by Volte on 23 November 2009 at 5:40pm

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LatinoBoy84
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24 November 2009 at 4:13am | IP Logged 
Program: PONS
Base Language:Spanish
Target languages: Several
http://www.ponsidiomas.com/

Summary: Based on what I've seen, this seems to be a popular company in Spain. They have several Target languages available, prices seem reasonable. The company claims to follow the common european framework and the main courses include 2 books with 4 cd's.


Program: Curso completo de lengua rusa
Base Language: Spanish
Target: Russian
Summary: I've read on another site that the two books cover approximately three semesters worth of University studies. The student is expected to have command of 3,000 words by the end of the course.
http://www.edicioneshispanoeslavas.com/

Edited by LatinoBoy84 on 24 November 2009 at 4:25am



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