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nogoodnik
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 Message 105 of 194
22 June 2010 at 12:59am | IP Logged 
I've still not come across interesting L-R materials for Hebrew.

I just got back from vacation; I was in Las Vegas for a few days and language-learning was put on hold. I finished the 70 episodes of Haalufa (thank God, my brain was starting to melt) and I'm on lesson 40 of Assimil French. Ideally, I'd like to get back to a two lesson per day rhythm and watch two Israeli TV shows per day and take notes. I really want to break into literature soon, so I guess I should be reading more passages from that Ora Band "Modern Hebrew Literature" book but I've been kind of lazy with that. I'd also like to begin the FIA videos again.
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nogoodnik
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 Message 106 of 194
24 June 2010 at 12:07am | IP Logged 
I'm on lesson 46 of Assimil French. I'll probably be starting the active wave the day after tomorrow, so I'm excited. I've decided to keep watching a lot of Israeli TV shows while taking notes because it appears to be helping significantly. I'm not doing any active Russian study at this point, but I usually have to sit at the computer for a few hours per day and I spend most of the time listening to Russian music and podcasts. I still have not come across any promising L-R material for Hebrew, but I've found some stuff for Russian and French. At some point in the near future, I think I'll take a weekend to try L-R with Russian (if I can't do so with Hebrew.)

My primary goals at the moment are to watch the first season of Asfur (Israeli TV show) and make progress with Assimil.    

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nogoodnik
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 Message 107 of 194
26 June 2010 at 8:41pm | IP Logged 
I just finished episode 15 of Asfur. At first I had a bit of difficulty understanding the dialogue because the majority of the main characters are arsim who speak really quickly. I got used to the flow after the first episode or so and am learning some new vocabulary. Some of the slang these people use I've never heard before. For example, they are always saying that something is "ben zona" which they are using as a synonym for "cool" but the words literally mean "son of a woman with *questionable morals*". I actually tried to use this slang last night while speaking with an Israeli friend and we both started laughing really hard after I said it.

I'm on Assimil lesson 50 passive wave and lesson 1 active wave. I'm going to spend more time with the audio during the active wave, so I've uploaded all of the cds on my ipod.

I'm also listening to tons of French rap now and am enjoying it immensely. It's strange because I never listen to pop or rap music in English but I just love hearing these songs in foreign languages.



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nogoodnik
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 Message 108 of 194
28 June 2010 at 7:59pm | IP Logged 
Asfur: episode 20 watched
Assimil French: lesson 55

I'm pretty happy with my language-schedule, but I'd like to add a bit more of active Hebrew study besides having conversations with friends and watching TV. I have a few books lying around the house, but none of them have really called to me. I've thought about finishing the Assimil French course and then spending 3 or 4 days L-Ring, and afterwards going through the Assimil French-based Hebrew course with a dictionary while also completing "Using French" (the intermediate Assimil course for French.)

Practically-speaking, I imagine I'd get more out of Assimil Hebrew if I had completed "Using French" first, but I don't want to wait that long. I also speak Hebrew already, so I don't think I'll need the same kind of instruction as a beginner. I'm hoping the course will help me get more comfortable with writing, which is my worst skill in Hebrew. I'm thinking of doing some dictations from the book and written English to Hebrew translations.

Within the next couple of weeks, I'd like to borrow an English-language copy of The Stranger from the library and re-read it in preparation for L-R.
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nogoodnik
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 Message 109 of 194
29 June 2010 at 9:27pm | IP Logged 

Shalom chevre,

I surrendered to wanderlust all morning today, probably because I have a lot of stuff to get done and I was procrastinating. I did listen to Dana International for about an hour though I guess I can count that as "passive study" :)

I spent some time watching Georgian videos and looking for resources for Amharic (FSI has a course btw...but I usually can't tolerate FSI.) I also discovered a site that broadcasts the news in Moroccan Judeo-Arabic (as well as in Georgian, Yiddish, and Ladino btw.) It's been awhile since I've heard this language, but I have a few fond memories of listening to stories and jokes and not understanding anything but just enjoying the beauty of the sounds. To me it sounds like Yiddish-Arabic if that makes any sense.

I'm also kind of disappointed with myself for not trying to learn Amharic or Georgian while in Israel. I did get quite a lot of Yiddish practice there so all was not lost. So I have a million math problems to do now and I need to search for a new job so I'll have to end this rambling session for the time being.
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nogoodnik
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 Message 110 of 194
02 July 2010 at 7:21pm | IP Logged 
I mentioned earlier that I have an old French-based Assimil Hebrew course. I was kind of holding off on using it since I'm still a beginner at French, but I flipped through it this morning and did the first three lessons. Clearly it's not yet helping with my Hebrew, but it is great for French! I read the Hebrew side first and then I use my Hebrew knowledge to learn new words in French. Also, I don't understand 100 percent of the grammar/usage notes, but I do get the jist of most of them and I don't need a lot of direction now anyway.

I must confess that I have never completed a textbook in Modern Hebrew, so I feel like I've missed something. Hebrew is a very logical language and I know I can benefit greatly from some additional systematic study. I've spent the past year and a half or so thinking Hebrew is really difficult. The funny thing is while reading the Assimil I noticed how much simpler Hebrew grammar appears than French.

At some point in the near future I'd like to invest in an electronic dictionary. I'd like it to be able to translate several languages, but especially French, Russian, Hebrew, and Spanish. I'd also like to get monolingual dictionaries in Hebrew and French.
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nogoodnik
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 Message 111 of 194
05 July 2010 at 6:37am | IP Logged 
Asfur: 38 episodes watched
French with ease: lesson 60 (behind a bit with the repeat lessons)
Hebrew with ease: lesson 10

I'm still really enjoying Assimil Hebrew, and even though I'm using an old edition, the dialogues sound authentic (unlike FSI..don't get me started)

I think I'm going to try to do another Assimil lesson now and watch a couple more episodes of Asfur. I'm really looking forward to finishing Assimil French because I downloaded a bunch of dubbed Seinfeld shows and I want to have a couch potato nostalgia fest.
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nogoodnik
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 Message 112 of 194
07 July 2010 at 6:45pm | IP Logged 
French with ease: lesson 62 passive (still behind a couple of lessons with active phase)
Hebrew with ease: lesson 13
Asfur: episode 48

I am confused about the Assimil Hebrew course. As I mentioned before, I have the 1982 edition part 1. There is a part 2 as well, which I have managed to track down but have not yet purchased because I cannot find a cd version of the audio. My initial understanding was that the new Hebrew with Ease course was an updated version of tome 1 of the 1982 course. Now I have reason to believe that the new Hebrew with ease course is an updated version of both tome 1 and tome 2 combined, thus warranting purchase. The reason I think this is is the case is because the new edition is 720 pages and tome 1 of the 1982 book is only 420 pages. On the other hand, they could have included a dictionary or something in there.

My strategy at this point is to try to go slow with the Hebrew Assimil course because
I know my beginner's French will eventually cause me trouble. On the other hand, If I begin to have unanswered questions, I can always call a Hebrew speaker or consult google translate.

I'm also trying to dedicate more time to Assimil French, which a couple of lessons ago started getting difficult. I wonder if I should keep going with the one lesson per day as advised by Assimil and add Michel Thomas to reinforce grammar concepts.


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