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| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 121 of 194 28 July 2010 at 7:12pm | IP Logged |
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I'm now on season 2 of Hakol Dvash. I also borrowed the first two seasons of Seinfeld from my Grandma and I plan to watch them to work on my Spanish and French. The idea is to watch the episode initially in English with French subtitles and then to watch the same episode with French dubbing and French subtitles. After I finish the first two seasons in French, I will restart the process with Spanish.
I'm slightly annoyed because the French subtitles do not match the dubbing. I'm not doing such a great job keeping up motivation for assimil. I normally just get around to doing a lesson of the Hebrew or French but not both. I'm thinking of trying to do the lessons first thing in the morning instead of at night, to try to prevent procrastination. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 122 of 194 30 July 2010 at 4:41am | IP Logged |
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I'm still not doing so well with Assimil. For French, I will probably want to just start over when I begin again.
I'm not getting a lot out of the Hebrew course, although I feel that it is an excellent course and I highly recommend it. It is a very colloquial course and does not seem grammar-heavy. I have the colloquial language down, but I'm really lacking knowledge of grammar, so I don't feel this course suits me well right now. It's also in French, so I become frustrated occasionally. I think I will go back to עברית שלב ב and see if I can stick to that. Part of me just wants to quit Spanish, French, and Russian until I reach Advanced Fluency in Modern and Ancient Hebrew. On the other hand, I'm not sure I'll be able to concentrate on just one language with the same intensity. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 123 of 194 01 August 2010 at 6:41pm | IP Logged |
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שני אחים
שני אחים, יהודה ויואל, ישבו בהר המוריה בירושלים. יהודה גר עם האשה שלו ושלושה בנים. יואל גר לבד, בלי אשה ובלי בנים. שני האחים עבדו בשדה ביחד וחלקו את החטה ביניהם לילה אחד חשב יואל: "יש ליהודה אשה ושלושה בנים. אין לי משפחה. יהודה צריך הרבה חטה למשפחה שלו. אני לא צריך הרבה. אני נותו חלק מהחטה שלי ליהודה." בלילה קם יואל ולקח חלק מהחטה שלו והלך בשקט אל הבית של יהודה גם יהודה חשב בלילה: "יש לי אשה ושלושה בנים. הבנים והאשה שלי עוזרים לי, אבל אין ליואל משפחה. מי עוזר לו?" קם יהודה ולקח חלק מהחטה שלו והלך בשקט אל הבית של יואל. שני האחים נפגשו בדרך אלהים ראה את האהבה בין האחים ואמר: "המקום הזה הו מקום קדוש, מקום טוב לבית-המקדש.” במקום הזה, בהר המוריה, בנה שלמה המלך את בית-המקדש The above was my attempt at typing practice. I finished watching "Hakol Dvash" and am now going to look for another series. I'm still going through the Ora Band book, which is filling in some of my grammar holes. I'm also still going through season 1 of Seinfeld in French. Edited by nogoodnik on 01 August 2010 at 6:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 124 of 194 03 August 2010 at 11:49pm | IP Logged |
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I have been watching a lot of Israeli TV and am continuing with the Ora Band book.
A few days ago I went to one of the Russian stores here looking for rose water (I use it as a toner for my face.) I know that rose water is not a Russian product, but they usually have Israeli, Armenian and sometimes Persian stuff there too so I thought I'd give it a try. The sales woman didn't know what rose water was when I asked her, and asked me (in Russian) to explain to her what it was in Russian. I answered back (in Russian) that I don't speak Russian very well so I don't know how to explain. She said (in English), "Are you sure you don't speak Russian?" and I answered that I didn't. I feel kind of crappy for not trying to engage her. I just get really shy when speaking to strangers. In the past, I've had a couple of successful short conversations because Russian speakers tend to intially try to speak to me in Russian even though we are not in Russia. People used to stop me on the street asking directions in Russian and would speak to me in Russian when I buy stuff in shops. Once I was able to answer a babushka who was kvetching at me for not dressing warm enough in winter (in Russian.) I said something jilted like "yes, I understand. It is cold today. thank you" So from now on I will answer back in Russian when I'm addressed in Russian again. No more shyness!! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| talkl Diglot Groupie Israel Joined 5227 days ago 51 posts - 61 votes Speaks: Modern Hebrew*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 125 of 194 04 August 2010 at 10:34am | IP Logged |
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Hi nogoodnik,
i havent figured out by your posts if you are in Israel ot not. My post takes the assumption that you are still in the US. Again i'm not sure if you are Jewish. I assume you are. Have you thought about going to a birthright trip? I think that way you can have 10 concentrated days of immersing in the language. The israeli soldiers will be more than happy to help you with your hebrew if you just ask them. I dont even have to mention the advantages of the fact that the trip is financed by the Israeli Jewish Agency. I had a girlfriend who had come to Israel for a six month internship after seeing Israel through birthright. The trip can help you decide if you want to spend more time in Israel in future programs. good luck with whatever you decide to do, Tal 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 126 of 194 08 August 2010 at 6:45pm | IP Logged |
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Hi Tal,
How nice to have an Israeli here. I am Jewish, but too old to do birthright (by a couple of years.) I can't believe that I passed up a free trip; that was not a very Jewish move on my part :) Welcome to this forum, btw and best of luck with your Spanish! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 127 of 194 09 August 2010 at 2:35am | IP Logged |
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I am trying to figure out how to do something. Basically, I want to watch French films with Hebrew subtitles. I know that you can download subtitles of films on the Internet, but I don't know where you find these subtitles and how to get them to play on top of the film you are watching.
I am really low-tech, but I'll try some google searches and see what I can come up with. What I'm doing right now is sort of a waste of time: I watch the (usually but not always) American film with Hebrew subtitles. Then, I watch it dubbed into French. I get bored while watching the French film because my comprehension of spoken French is so bad. If there are French subtitles, it helps but I still don't understand a lot. The answer is Hebrew subtitles. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 128 of 194 10 August 2010 at 7:45pm | IP Logged |
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I'm still trying to figure out this subtitles thing (not that I've put any effort into searching yet) and I'm also trying to figure out another solution for Hebrew L-R. I have spoken to 10 Israelis and noone has been able to find UNABRIDGED audiobooks besides the Bible (I'm not in a biblical mood these days.) I am sad but I'll get over it. I have one lead, which is a library for the blind in Israel. Now I just need to find a blind Israeli who can get access to this library. A person needs some sort of authorization from a doctor, so I can't lie (yes I checked.)
I'm having difficulty studying multiple languages so I came up with an idea: I will continue with Hebrew intensively (my reading and writing are awful still) and take up one other L2 (or is it an L3) for a month. My least favorite language is Spanish (but it is the most useful) so I'm not going to choose that first. My favorite language is Russian, but I fear that it will be too difficult for me to make a breakthrough with this language without giving it my undivided attention. So that leaves French for this month. I'm going to start another one of these logs where I check in daily. The goal is just to do something every day for 30 days. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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