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Slacker Diglot Pro Member United States Joined 5455 days ago 62 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Spanish, English Studies: German, Italian, Russian, Portuguese, Arabic (classical) Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 38 29 December 2009 at 2:15am | IP Logged |
apparition wrote:
I like this. Pimsleur always has a way of putting me to sleep (I need visuals!), but good
luck! |
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apparition,
I totally know what you mean, I'm guessing that involving all possible senses in the language learnin' process
would be the best way to go; however, watching German game-shows on my drive to and from work could get
distracting. So, I try to do the next best thing and try to imagine that I'm in whatever scenario Dr. Pimsleur and
his evil cohorts have concocted for me. For example, today I did German 1.8 (in addition to Portuguese 2.18...
Bam!.. Extreeme!) anyway, the scenario involved asking a local German frawlei... uh.. frau-loin... ok, "Young
German Lady" to drinks of beer or wine. To get into the scenario, I put myself in the place of Rusty Griswold in
the acclaimed movie "European Vacation" -- if the Oscar's were decided by 13-year-old pubescent boys, this
scene alone would have garnered the film Best PIcture, along with Best Supporting Actress for the lovely German
girl. Anyway, that brings me to a good point -- I think that motivation (when realized), more than aptitude,
good study habits, fancy schools or programs, etc. is the key to stuff. It's a theory anyway.
On a side note, I vaguely remember the same "picking up a girl and inviting her to beer and wine" scene way
back when I did Portuguese I (quite a few years ago). I can't wait to see if they use the same scenario for Eastern
Arabic... if you know the answer, please don't spoil it for me.
-Slacker
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| apparition Octoglot Senior Member United States Joined 6652 days ago 600 posts - 667 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), French, Arabic (Iraqi), Portuguese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Pashto
| Message 10 of 38 29 December 2009 at 5:18am | IP Logged |
Yeah, I think motivation is the biggest factor as well. Can't tell ya how many fellow students of mine throughout the years have failed to learn to their potential despite given all the necessary resources and more. Some people don't have the fire inside for learning the language, that's all.
Good idea about the visualization techniques. I'll have to try it again sometime to see what I can come up with.
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| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5483 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 11 of 38 29 December 2009 at 7:41am | IP Logged |
This log is hilarious! You definitely have something going. After this you should be able to differentiate between the good and bad Pimsleurs (Write a review ;). I think that if you want to become "good enough" in all of these languages, you're on the right track. Enjoy!!!
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Slacker Diglot Pro Member United States Joined 5455 days ago 62 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Spanish, English Studies: German, Italian, Russian, Portuguese, Arabic (classical) Personal Language Map
| Message 12 of 38 05 January 2010 at 4:21am | IP Logged |
WEEK 1 (part 2) - Pimsleur Portuguese, Level II, Lesson 25 and Pimsleur German, Level I, Lesson 15
OK, a little bit of re-arranging up front; I'm going to officially "start" this whole mess not last week, or even
this week, but on the week starting today, January 4th, 2010, not only to buy myself a little more time, but more
importantly to jibe with my little calendar-book thing that says that today starts "week 1" of 2010. It'll make my
counting a bit easier, so there you have it, everything up until now is "warm-up"!
Anyway, so I've been trucking along just fine in German; half-way through Level 1, and I can already say such
useful phrases as "Give me some of your dollars" and "The beer is for you, the wine is for Gunther." This may
sound prosaic or useless to some folks who would rather know how to conjugate a verb in eighty-eleven ways,
or decline a noun (BTW - has anyone ever bothered to ask a noun how it feels about being declined? I'm pretty
sure the response would be startling). What was I saying? Oh yes, the Pimsleur's early and continuing focus on
drinking beer, wine, hitting on "foreign" women, and then claiming to have none of the local currency and trying
to mooch it off of a new "acquaintance". Yeah, this kind of stuff is right up my alley! Pimsleur? more like
PIMPsleur!
On the recommendation of a previous poster, I've began to half-assedly keep track of how much time I'm
spending on each lesson. This week it seems to have broken down like this:
-5 hours on Portuguese (2.17-2.25)
-6.5 hours on German (1.6-1.15)
This includes review, and is putting me on a pace of one lesson in each language per day, which, so it seems,
would be the pace that I would have to continue (at least) in order to actually come anywhere close to completing
my TAC'10 challenge. But this thing is like a marathon, so I'm setting my sight on reaching short term goals
first and not injuring myself. (One lesson/Day) x 2 Languages = OK for now... and a good warm up for when I
start getting to the harder languages.
-Slacker
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| jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6296 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 13 of 38 05 January 2010 at 5:22am | IP Logged |
TAC 2010: Pimsleur Fry My Brain
I always get messed up when I listen to different languages in Pimsleur. I hear the same prompt in English and the other target language pops out. Hope you can succeed and that your brain does not explode.
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| Sprachjunge Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 7167 days ago 368 posts - 548 votes Speaks: English*, GermanC2 Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 14 of 38 05 January 2010 at 5:58am | IP Logged |
Slacker wrote:
(BTW - has anyone ever bothered to ask a noun how it feels about being declined? I'm pretty
sure the response would be startling). What was I saying? Oh yes, the Pimsleur's early and continuing focus on
drinking beer, wine, hitting on "foreign" women, and then claiming to have none of the local currency and trying
to mooch it off of a new "acquaintance". Yeah, this kind of stuff is right up my alley! Pimsleur? more like
PIMPsleur!
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OMG, hilarious. Please don't stop this project!
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Slacker Diglot Pro Member United States Joined 5455 days ago 62 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Spanish, English Studies: German, Italian, Russian, Portuguese, Arabic (classical) Personal Language Map
| Message 15 of 38 09 January 2010 at 5:51pm | IP Logged |
jimbo wrote:
TAC 2010: Pimsleur Fry My Brain
I always get messed up when I listen to different languages in Pimsleur. I hear the same prompt in English and
the other target language pops out. Hope you can succeed and that your brain does not explode. |
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Jimbo!,
You make a very good point, which I will address thusly:
#1. In attempting to try to maybe learn these languages, I'm staggering the starts of each of the courses,
so that, for example, I'm just finishing up course 2 of the Portuguese course, while just starting the German
course. What I really want to avoid is doing the same lessons at the same time in two different languages, since,
from what I've seen so far and read, the course materials are very similar from one language to another (i.e.
Volume 1, Lesson 14 of the Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, etc. courses all involve buying a book at a store and
learning numbers from 20-30... for example.)
#2. Another key point, and probably the most crucial point, is that in doing this whole thing one of my
underlying goals is not so much to be able to learn a bunch of different languages, but to see if a person
(specifically, this person) can keep so many languages distinct and separate and be able to function (albeit at a
rudimentary level) in all of them without cross-language interference.
And, if all of that fails and my brain goes into some sort of a meltdown, I hear that modern psychotropic
drugs, combined with moderate-to-above-average alcohol consumption can reboot me to my current mental
state.
-Slacker
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| Woodpecker Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5813 days ago 351 posts - 590 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Arabic (classical)
| Message 16 of 38 09 January 2010 at 7:14pm | IP Logged |
Are you planning on doing weekly progress updates, or are we going to get some vivid day-to-day chronicles?
Also, do you mind if we start a little forum pool on how many languages you actually finish?
Edited by Woodpecker on 09 January 2010 at 7:14pm
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