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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 41 of 94 20 March 2010 at 5:12am | IP Logged |
datsunking1 wrote:
I've never heard any of those actually.
We use:
slammed, bombed, blitzed, = drunk "I got [ ] at that party"
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We use slammed, wasted, smashed, fked up, and plastered.
Also we use piss drunk, too.
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| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5585 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 42 of 94 21 March 2010 at 12:10am | IP Logged |
Johntm wrote:
datsunking1 wrote:
I've never heard any of those actually.
We use:
slammed, bombed, blitzed, = drunk "I got [ ] at that party"
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We use slammed, wasted, smashed, fked up, and plastered.
Also we use piss drunk, too. |
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It's really sad actually, that society has come down to this. There are 12 year olds getting drunk on weekends lol
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| kmart Senior Member Australia Joined 6124 days ago 194 posts - 400 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian
| Message 43 of 94 21 March 2010 at 1:14am | IP Logged |
Captain Haddock wrote:
Where I'm from (Western Canada), both "cheesed" and "cheesed off" mean angry, whereas "pissed off" is angry and
"pissed" is drunk (but we usually say "pissed drunk" instead). |
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And in Australia you can "piss on" someone's idea = "put it down, deprecate it" at work, and then "piss on" their Friday night out = "ruin" it - maybe because you got "pissed" after drinking too much bourbon and "took the piss" = "made fun" of them in public, so that they get "pissed off" and tell you to "piss off" = "go away".
;-)
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6703 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 44 of 94 21 March 2010 at 2:16am | IP Logged |
So let's just conclude that a large percentage of the 800 words that those youngsters actually use are swearwords. Frankly the discussion above has shown signs of descending to the same level
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| Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 45 of 94 21 March 2010 at 5:50am | IP Logged |
datsunking1 wrote:
Johntm wrote:
datsunking1 wrote:
I've never heard any of those actually.
We use:
slammed, bombed, blitzed, = drunk "I got [ ] at that party"
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We use slammed, wasted, smashed, fked up, and plastered.
Also we use piss drunk, too. |
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It's really sad actually, that society has come down to this. There are 12 year olds getting drunk on weekends lol |
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Yeah that's pathetic. Getting drunk never really appealed to me (I have nothing against alcohol, however, I've had it, but getting smashed doesn't seem like fun).
[QUOTE=Iversen]So let's just conclude that a large percentage of the 800 words that those youngsters actually use are swearwords. Frankly the discussion above has shown signs of descending to the same level [/IVERSEN] As a teenager, I'll agree with this.
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| PaulLambeth Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5373 days ago 244 posts - 315 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Icelandic, Hindi, Irish
| Message 46 of 94 21 March 2010 at 6:59am | IP Logged |
William Camden wrote:
The teenagers' problem from the account seems to be that they don't have a "high" version of language to use. |
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This is the most succinct summation of the entire discussion above that I can find.
Recently, very often, I've been worried about how language develops with teenagers, taking examples found within teenage social groups but without realising it completely ignoring the idea of 'two versions of a language'.
I constantly encounter terrible grammar audially and now visually over the internet in the English language. It's reached the point that I don't care anymore and disregard people who speak and type with such disdain. That might sound very elitist but it just happens. I can also understand, however, that typing is very different to speaking. Should people not be able to spell a word online it's normally a sign of laziness coupled with an inability to type quickly (I use the computer rather a lot so I've developed a decent typing speed) or just an inability to spell. Either way, as long as the majority know how to spell correctly, words in the dictionary won't change due to slackness. I also have seen people, including myself, growing out of bad typing habits.
Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. I suppose I take a purist view of that language and want it to continue being as it has been despite external influence. I'm not myself sure why but that's just how I regard languages - as seperate and by nature unique ways of demonstrating national identities and cultures. My problem was that I hadn't properly identified that bad habits have a tendency to disappear at a certain age, like I just have done above with poor English typers.
I hope that makes some sense. The reference to Icelandic teenagers using English online is just something I've been observing and doesn't have all that much to do with the original topic.
All the slang discussed above (some of which amused me) just goes to show that aside from the obvious minority of teenagers who actually have very limited high vocabulary, the original article in question really shouldn't be cited without due care.
Paul
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| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5735 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin
| Message 47 of 94 21 March 2010 at 7:27am | IP Logged |
PaulLambeth wrote:
Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. [...]
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You don't see any irony in being annoyed at how native speakers of the language that you're learning are communicating with each other? ;)
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| PaulLambeth Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5373 days ago 244 posts - 315 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Icelandic, Hindi, Irish
| Message 48 of 94 21 March 2010 at 7:44am | IP Logged |
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. [...]
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You don't see any irony in being annoyed at how native speakers of the language that you're learning are communicating with each other? ;) |
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Haha, yes, I suppose I do ;) I shouldn't complain about people wishing to express how impressively bilingual they can be as teenagers.
Really my annoyance is only driven by the fact that finding Icelanders to communicate with in realtime is difficult enough without seeing "awesome" popping up instead of whatever Icelandic variation of the word "great" should be most appropriately used.
Edited by PaulLambeth on 21 March 2010 at 7:55am
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