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| numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes  Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 89 of 112 22 February 2011 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I intuitively agree that wang and vreemd don't have the same sound, but then again I
haven't understood the Dutch W yet anyway. What do you think about W in waar vs gauw? Unless I'm very much mistaken they are radically different. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5337 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2 Studies: French | Message 90 of 112 22 February 2011 at 11:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes they are, but that's because the w at the end of gauw is not pronounced and doesn't affect the pronunciation of au at all.
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| numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 91 of 112 22 February 2011 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
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What about nauwelijks? Same as gauw, except it's not at the end, if that were to be the
reason. Or maybe never after au? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5337 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2 Studies: French | Message 92 of 112 22 February 2011 at 11:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It depends on whether you pronounce the -we part as a separate syllable because in that case there seems to be a slight w sound where the teeth don't touch the lips which makes it sound more like an English w to my ears. Nauwelijks
EDIT: For some strange reason I wrote "Dutch r" instead of "Dutch w" which makes no sense at all. Sorry if I confused anyone. Edited by ReneeMona on 05 March 2011 at 9:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| staf250 Pentaglot Senior Member Belgium emmerick.be Joined 5699 days ago 352 posts - 414 votes Speaks: French, Dutch*, Italian, English, German Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 93 of 112 23 February 2011 at 9:44am | IP Logged | |||||
In Belgium we have a lot of names like "Delaere". The pronunciation of the "ae" has to be like "aa" in the words "jaar" or "naar". Other common names are: Baert, Maes, Van Laer, Huyghebaert, De Baetselier a.s.o. BTW alphabetical classification of names of human beings is different in Holland and not the same as in Belgium. In Belgium we are looking always at the first sign of the name: Van Laer comes with words beginning with V, De Baetselier comes on D. In Holland you'll find the name Van Laer at L and the other name De Baetselier on B. Edited by staf250 on 23 February 2011 at 9:46am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 94 of 112 25 February 2011 at 6:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah, I was completely guessing how to say that name, I'm not very familiar with Belgian names. Thanks for the tip. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 95 of 112 25 February 2011 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I was watching this video by Mike Campbell where he's talking about recording himself and then listening to himself, where he can hear all the mistakes. Then he can record it again and so on. But the new idea to me in this is that he apparently does this very regularly. I had never thought of that. I do a lot of listening to train my hearing, but almost no explicit speaking practice. I certainly agree with him that speaking is a physical skill that must be trained, because I've noticed myself how on some days it comes easier and on others it seems like an effort.
I don't have any concrete plan emerging from this, but it's something to think about. Edited by numerodix on 25 February 2011 at 6:28pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| staf250 Pentaglot Senior Member Belgium emmerick.be Joined 5699 days ago 352 posts - 414 votes Speaks: French, Dutch*, Italian, English, German Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 96 of 112 25 February 2011 at 9:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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And for sure, when you, one day, should learn French you will have to exercise pronunciation.
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