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numerodix
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 Message 41 of 112
12 November 2010 at 2:48pm | IP Logged 
Oasis88 wrote:
Hi numerodix, glad you're posting again. I followed your Italian blog.
I just got a hold
of La Lingua per stranieri and I had a question for you given that you have had a lot
of
experience with it. In hindsight, would you recommend spending a lot of time with this
book as you did, or would you have gone about it a bit differently? It looks like a
great
resource and the old cassette tapes give it a real vintage feel.


Well, I wasn't as old school to get the cassette tapes, I don't even have anything to
play them back on :)

If you read how I used the textbook I can understand that you think maybe I went a
little overkill, transcribing all of it (apart from the dialogs), doing every single
exercise, doing reviews etc. But I think it was completely worth it, because Italian is
the first Romance language that I've studied (at least to any depth), and so I had a
lot of ground to cover of the kind that I don't have to cover in say, Dutch. I notice
now that when I read something in French I understand it much better, not just because
I know more words (that are similar), but also because the sentence structure tends to
jump out at me and I can see what's what much clearer. So since you already have
Spanish under your belt, you would probably discover my method to be overly thorough,
because a lot of things would be intuitively clear to you that weren't to me at the
time.
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Oasis88
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 Message 42 of 112
15 November 2010 at 3:17pm | IP Logged 
Thank you - advise taken. I'm still working through a basic grammar book and the idea of
spending a bit of time with LPS is STILL appealing to me because the idea of having
grammar concepts ingrained is attractive. I appreciate your recommendations/reviews of
this book - if I hadn't seen your blog this thing would have been accumulating dust at
the library (perhaps YOU should thank the book).

Still working on any Italian these days?
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numerodix
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 Message 43 of 112
15 November 2010 at 5:50pm | IP Logged 
Huh? I should thank the book? Okay. Thank you, book. Is that what you had in mind? No?
Then I have to say spiegati meglio. :)

Yes I am. My intake of Dutch has suffered greatly for my unwillingness to put down
Italian. It took months until I could even bring myself to give them equal amounts of
time in the day. And that's on an average, programmed day. On days when I find myself
with a little unanticipated extra free time I very often spend it on Italian. Since I
started reading books just over a year ago (or more exactly, a book, which I
finished in January), I have read thirty something books. My hour meter, which I still
update, is past 1300 hours.

Once on a chance occasion in a library I found this book called "Introduction to
20th-century Italian literature"
by a certain Robert Gordon. I decided I might as
well polish my skills by reading my way through the major works. Then once I feel more
confident I'll try some older literature.

It's quite a feast, really.

Edited by numerodix on 15 November 2010 at 5:51pm

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 Message 44 of 112
21 November 2010 at 12:45am | IP Logged 
numerodix wrote:
Then once I feel more confident I'll try some older literature.


Don't rush or you would find any old stuff too hard. Like if it had been written in trøndensk or sognamaol :p ;)




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numerodix
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 Message 45 of 112
21 November 2010 at 1:29am | IP Logged 
densou wrote:
Don't rush or you would find any old stuff too hard. Like if it had been
written in trøndensk or sognamaol :p ;)


It's not that big a deal. If I find out I can't handle it I can always let it go a few
years and try it again. But I don't think it's gonna be that impossible, I've lightly
browsed some of it and I think I can make out some of it.
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Vos
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 Message 46 of 112
21 November 2010 at 10:07am | IP Logged 
numerodix wrote:

It's that it comes up in a lot of places where it doesn't make any sense at all, like
"gewoon doen!" ~ just do it.


Yes indeed, it is quite the peculiar language I'd have to agree. Just one of those things that can only be learned
via exposure with natives and native material I guess. And perhaps lot's of questions directed at natives over
trying to understand their confusingly odd nuances.

Any chance you're a Patton fan and have heard his somewhat recent Mondo Cane record? Killer album. If you'd
like some great music in Italian (at least to my ears), give it a listen. The songs are remakes of Italian 40's & 50's
film scores. Very nicely done.

Hoop alles gaat goed.
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numerodix
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 Message 47 of 112
21 November 2010 at 11:48am | IP Logged 
Vos wrote:
Yes indeed, it is quite the peculiar language I'd have to agree. Just one
of those things that can only be learned
via exposure with natives and native material I guess. And perhaps lot's of questions
directed at natives over
trying to understand their confusingly odd nuances.

It's the kind of thing that you will figure out eventually, but it takes time and
repetition.

Vos wrote:
Any chance you're a Patton fan and have heard his somewhat recent Mondo Cane
record? Killer album. If you'd
like some great music in Italian (at least to my ears), give it a listen. The songs are
remakes of Italian 40's & 50's
film scores. Very nicely done.

Hoop alles gaat goed.

Patton sounds like a general from WW2? No, never heard about the artist. If you want to
check out the kind of (contemporary) Italian music that I listen to recently, here are
some:
Irene Grandi
Jovanotti
Marco Carta
Emma Marrone
Luciano Ligabue
Luca Dirisio

Hoe gaat het dan met je Spaans?
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numerodix
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 Message 48 of 112
24 November 2010 at 2:26pm | IP Logged 
[nl] FINALLY finished with Assimil. Well, the first wave of Assimil, I still have
something like 50 dialogs to translate, but the lessons are up. It feels like it took
insanely long.


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