numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 41 of 112 12 November 2010 at 2:48pm | IP Logged |
Oasis88 wrote:
Hi numerodix, glad you're posting again. I followed your Italian blog.
I just got a hold
of La Lingua per stranieri and I had a question for you given that you have had a lot
of
experience with it. In hindsight, would you recommend spending a lot of time with this
book as you did, or would you have gone about it a bit differently? It looks like a
great
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Well, I wasn't as old school to get the cassette tapes, I don't even have anything to
play them back on :)
If you read how I used the textbook I can understand that you think maybe I went a
little overkill, transcribing all of it (apart from the dialogs), doing every single
exercise, doing reviews etc. But I think it was completely worth it, because Italian is
the first Romance language that I've studied (at least to any depth), and so I had a
lot of ground to cover of the kind that I don't have to cover in say, Dutch. I notice
now that when I read something in French I understand it much better, not just because
I know more words (that are similar), but also because the sentence structure tends to
jump out at me and I can see what's what much clearer. So since you already have
Spanish under your belt, you would probably discover my method to be overly thorough,
because a lot of things would be intuitively clear to you that weren't to me at the
time.
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Oasis88 Senior Member Australia Joined 5707 days ago 160 posts - 187 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Italian
| Message 42 of 112 15 November 2010 at 3:17pm | IP Logged |
Thank you - advise taken. I'm still working through a basic grammar book and the idea of
spending a bit of time with LPS is STILL appealing to me because the idea of having
grammar concepts ingrained is attractive. I appreciate your recommendations/reviews of
this book - if I hadn't seen your blog this thing would have been accumulating dust at
the library (perhaps YOU should thank the book).
Still working on any Italian these days?
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 43 of 112 15 November 2010 at 5:50pm | IP Logged |
Huh? I should thank the book? Okay. Thank you, book. Is that what you had in mind? No?
Then I have to say spiegati meglio. :)
Yes I am. My intake of Dutch has suffered greatly for my unwillingness to put down
Italian. It took months until I could even bring myself to give them equal amounts of
time in the day. And that's on an average, programmed day. On days when I find myself
with a little unanticipated extra free time I very often spend it on Italian. Since I
started reading books just over a year ago (or more exactly, a book, which I
finished in January), I have read thirty something books. My hour meter, which I still
update, is past 1300 hours.
Once on a chance occasion in a library I found this book called "Introduction to
20th-century Italian literature" by a certain Robert Gordon. I decided I might as
well polish my skills by reading my way through the major works. Then once I feel more
confident I'll try some older literature.
It's quite a feast, really.
Edited by numerodix on 15 November 2010 at 5:51pm
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densou Senior Member Italy foto.webalice.it/denRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6134 days ago 120 posts - 121 votes Speaks: Italian*
| Message 44 of 112 21 November 2010 at 12:45am | IP Logged |
numerodix wrote:
Then once I feel more confident I'll try some older literature. |
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Don't rush or you would find any old stuff too hard. Like if it had been written in trøndensk or sognamaol :p ;)
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 45 of 112 21 November 2010 at 1:29am | IP Logged |
densou wrote:
Don't rush or you would find any old stuff too hard. Like if it had been
written in trøndensk or sognamaol :p ;) |
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It's not that big a deal. If I find out I can't handle it I can always let it go a few
years and try it again. But I don't think it's gonna be that impossible, I've lightly
browsed some of it and I think I can make out some of it.
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Vos Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5568 days ago 766 posts - 1020 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Polish
| Message 46 of 112 21 November 2010 at 10:07am | IP Logged |
numerodix wrote:
It's that it comes up in a lot of places where it doesn't make any sense at all, like
"gewoon doen!" ~ just do it.
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Yes indeed, it is quite the peculiar language I'd have to agree. Just one of those things that can only be learned
via exposure with natives and native material I guess. And perhaps lot's of questions directed at natives over
trying to understand their confusingly odd nuances.
Any chance you're a Patton fan and have heard his somewhat recent Mondo Cane record? Killer album. If you'd
like some great music in Italian (at least to my ears), give it a listen. The songs are remakes of Italian 40's & 50's
film scores. Very nicely done.
Hoop alles gaat goed.
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 47 of 112 21 November 2010 at 11:48am | IP Logged |
Vos wrote:
Yes indeed, it is quite the peculiar language I'd have to agree. Just one
of those things that can only be learned
via exposure with natives and native material I guess. And perhaps lot's of questions
directed at natives over
trying to understand their confusingly odd nuances. |
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It's the kind of thing that you will figure out eventually, but it takes time and
repetition.
Vos wrote:
Any chance you're a Patton fan and have heard his somewhat recent Mondo Cane
record? Killer album. If you'd
like some great music in Italian (at least to my ears), give it a listen. The songs are
remakes of Italian 40's & 50's
film scores. Very nicely done.
Hoop alles gaat goed. |
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Patton sounds like a general from WW2? No, never heard about the artist. If you want to
check out the kind of (contemporary) Italian music that I listen to recently, here are
some:
Irene Grandi
Jovanotti
Marco Carta
Emma Marrone
Luciano Ligabue
Luca Dirisio
Hoe gaat het dan met je Spaans?
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6785 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 48 of 112 24 November 2010 at 2:26pm | IP Logged |
[nl] FINALLY finished with Assimil. Well, the first wave of Assimil, I still have
something like 50 dialogs to translate, but the lessons are up. It feels like it took
insanely long.
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