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duschan
Bilingual Triglot
Newbie
Australia
Joined 6083 days ago
18 posts - 22 votes
Speaks: Bulgarian*, Macedonian*, English
| Message 17 of 59 17 March 2010 at 10:38am | IP Logged |
Talairan wrote:
brandon wrote:
guesto wrote:
I picked the hardest accent I could
find (Rioplatense) and started watching a TV series. At first I understood only about 15%
but by episode 135 (yes, you can find full series on Youtube) |
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What's the name of this series? Not sure what to search for on YouTube to see one.
¡Gracias! |
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A second request for the name of the series :) |
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And a third :) I may want to give it a try.
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| datsunking1
Diglot
Senior Member
United States
Joined 5585 days ago
1014 posts - 1533 votes 
Speaks: English*, Spanish
Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 18 of 59 17 March 2010 at 4:42pm | IP Logged |
Johntm wrote:
datsunking1 wrote:
Johntm wrote:
datsunking1 wrote:
kerateo wrote:
Johntm wrote:
Anyways, ¡mucho suerto con español! |
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correction:
Mucha suerte con el español o Mucha suerte con tu español. |
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o buena suerte con el español :D ! |
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¡ay, me siento como un idiota! Ah well, live and learn, I guess. |
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jajaja está bien mano :D tienes que aprender una manera u otra :D |
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Sí. Por lo menos estoy aprendiendo algo :P |
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jajaja :D ¡claro que sí! creo que escuchando a esta lengua en la radio o la tele es la cosa más difícil. Los dialectos diferentes y pronunciaciones se lo ponen difícil. Tu español es muy impresionante ahorita :D deberías estar orgulloso :D
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| global_gizzy
Senior Member
United States
maxcollege.blogspot.
Joined 5703 days ago
275 posts - 310 votes
Studies: Spanish
| Message 19 of 59 17 March 2010 at 6:06pm | IP Logged |
I'm going to recommend that you buy regular DVD's and watch them with their Spanish Audio Track. RESIST the urge to turn on the captions. Just watch one or two movies everyday in Spanish. Pick a 3-10 minute segment of the film that you are going to focus on the most and STUDY it really really really hard.
Then find a friend, if you dont have one already, and practice speaking Spanish with them. I have the same problem (I can read (50/75) and speak (30/75) --Very limited vocabulary--but cant, for the life of me, understand SPOKEN Spanish if addressed) and this is all I've been able to come up with as a possible solution. Best of luck.
I find that sitting in a room with Spanish speakers and just listening that I understand some words that they say, even if I dont know what they are saying. I'm hoping that when I get better identifying verb tenses and object pronouns that meaning will come together for me a little better.
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| TheBiscuit
Tetraglot
Senior Member
Mexico
Joined 5923 days ago
532 posts - 619 votes
Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian
Studies: German, Croatian
| Message 20 of 59 17 March 2010 at 7:06pm | IP Logged |
duschan wrote:
I would like to hear from learners of Spanish if anyone has actually mastered the
spoken language, and if so how long it took and what they did to get there. After two
years of study, I've come to the point when I'm thinking about stopping any further
study, because I don't know how to continue. I've come to the point when I can
understand any newspaper article, no matter how complex it is, or read Nobel prize
literature in Spanish without any major difficulty, but at the same time unable to
understand a relatively simple conversation. |
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Here's my journey through Spanish, perhaps it'll be of some help.
I came to Mexico about 5 years ago with no Spanish. The only thing I had studied was an MT course. For about the first 6 months to a year I just listened, observed, paid attention to what was going on around me, read the newspaper sometimes, watched TV etc. I didn't take any classes or force myself to speak at that point.
I started speaking about a year or so after being here. I spoke before but by this I mean I began to express myself, participate in conversations more. I think the key to speaking for me was learning how to interact/converse in Spanish. Getting my listening up to high level was important as I couldn't contribute (well) to a conversation I couldn't follow. When I could follow any conversation effortlessly, I found speaking with people much easier. It's a slow process at first but you'll find it gains pace at a terrific rate and before you know it you're fairly fluent, as I was after about 2 years or so. I've found that the higher your listening skills are in one kind of Spanish, the easier it is to understand others. I haven't found the need to study endless books of idioms etc. in order to understand Argentine or Peruvian Spanish.
It's only in the past year or so that I've got into the literature, kind of the reverse of your process. I would say push the listening but also find some way to interact with native speakers. It's depressing at first, especially if you have a high level in other areas but I think it's worth it.
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| datsunking1
Diglot
Senior Member
United States
Joined 5585 days ago
1014 posts - 1533 votes
Speaks: English*, Spanish
Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 21 of 59 17 March 2010 at 10:10pm | IP Logged |
TheBiscuit wrote:
duschan wrote:
I would like to hear from learners of Spanish if anyone has actually mastered the
spoken language, and if so how long it took and what they did to get there. After two
years of study, I've come to the point when I'm thinking about stopping any further
study, because I don't know how to continue. I've come to the point when I can
understand any newspaper article, no matter how complex it is, or read Nobel prize
literature in Spanish without any major difficulty, but at the same time unable to
understand a relatively simple conversation. |
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Here's my journey through Spanish, perhaps it'll be of some help.
I came to Mexico about 5 years ago with no Spanish. The only thing I had studied was an MT course. For about the first 6 months to a year I just listened, observed, paid attention to what was going on around me, read the newspaper sometimes, watched TV etc. I didn't take any classes or force myself to speak at that point.
I started speaking about a year or so after being here. I spoke before but by this I mean I began to express myself, participate in conversations more. I think the key to speaking for me was learning how to interact/converse in Spanish. Getting my listening up to high level was important as I couldn't contribute (well) to a conversation I couldn't follow. When I could follow any conversation effortlessly, I found speaking with people much easier. It's a slow process at first but you'll find it gains pace at a terrific rate and before you know it you're fairly fluent, as I was after about 2 years or so. I've found that the higher your listening skills are in one kind of Spanish, the easier it is to understand others. I haven't found the need to study endless books of idioms etc. in order to understand Argentine or Peruvian Spanish.
It's only in the past year or so that I've got into the literature, kind of the reverse of your process. I would say push the listening but also find some way to interact with native speakers. It's depressing at first, especially if you have a high level in other areas but I think it's worth it. |
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Why did you come to Mexico? :) I just think it would be interesting to hear how you got there, I would love to have to move to a foreign country for business or whatever :)
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| Johntm
Senior Member
United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 5422 days ago
616 posts - 725 votes
Speaks: English*
Studies: Spanish
| Message 22 of 59 18 March 2010 at 4:52am | IP Logged |
datsunking1 wrote:
Johntm wrote:
datsunking1 wrote:
Johntm wrote:
datsunking1 wrote:
kerateo wrote:
Johntm wrote:
Anyways, ¡mucho suerto con español! |
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correction:
Mucha suerte con el español o Mucha suerte con tu español. |
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o buena suerte con el español :D ! |
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¡ay, me siento como un idiota! Ah well, live and learn, I guess. |
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jajaja está bien mano :D tienes que aprender una manera u otra :D |
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Sí. Por lo menos estoy aprendiendo algo :P |
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jajaja :D ¡claro que sí! creo que escuchando a esta lengua en la radio o la tele es la cosa más difícil. Los dialectos diferentes y pronunciaciones se lo ponen difícil. Tu español es muy impresionante ahorita :D deberías estar orgulloso :D |
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¡muchas gracias! pero creo que mi vocabulario no es lo suficientemente bueno. Tengo que buscar un montón de palabras al leer.
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| TheBiscuit
Tetraglot
Senior Member
Mexico
Joined 5923 days ago
532 posts - 619 votes
Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian
Studies: German, Croatian
| Message 23 of 59 19 March 2010 at 5:21am | IP Logged |
datsunking1 wrote:
TheBiscuit wrote:
duschan wrote:
I would like to hear from learners of Spanish if anyone has actually mastered the
spoken language, and if so how long it took and what they did to get there. After two
years of study, I've come to the point when I'm thinking about stopping any further
study, because I don't know how to continue. I've come to the point when I can
understand any newspaper article, no matter how complex it is, or read Nobel prize
literature in Spanish without any major difficulty, but at the same time unable to
understand a relatively simple conversation. |
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Here's my journey through Spanish, perhaps it'll be of some help.
I came to Mexico about 5 years ago with no Spanish. The only thing I had studied was an MT course. For about the first 6 months to a year I just listened, observed, paid attention to what was going on around me, read the newspaper sometimes, watched TV etc. I didn't take any classes or force myself to speak at that point.
I started speaking about a year or so after being here. I spoke before but by this I mean I began to express myself, participate in conversations more. I think the key to speaking for me was learning how to interact/converse in Spanish. Getting my listening up to high level was important as I couldn't contribute (well) to a conversation I couldn't follow. When I could follow any conversation effortlessly, I found speaking with people much easier. It's a slow process at first but you'll find it gains pace at a terrific rate and before you know it you're fairly fluent, as I was after about 2 years or so. I've found that the higher your listening skills are in one kind of Spanish, the easier it is to understand others. I haven't found the need to study endless books of idioms etc. in order to understand Argentine or Peruvian Spanish.
It's only in the past year or so that I've got into the literature, kind of the reverse of your process. I would say push the listening but also find some way to interact with native speakers. It's depressing at first, especially if you have a high level in other areas but I think it's worth it. |
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Why did you come to Mexico? :) I just think it would be interesting to hear how you got there, I would love to have to move to a foreign country for business or whatever :) |
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Well, it's a long story. I just came for a month to see if things would work out... and that was 5 years ago! Now enjoying life in the last free country in North America!
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| datsunking1
Diglot
Senior Member
United States
Joined 5585 days ago
1014 posts - 1533 votes
Speaks: English*, Spanish
Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 24 of 59 19 March 2010 at 4:25pm | IP Logged |
TheBiscuit wrote:
datsunking1 wrote:
TheBiscuit wrote:
duschan wrote:
I would like to hear from learners of Spanish if anyone has actually mastered the
spoken language, and if so how long it took and what they did to get there. After two
years of study, I've come to the point when I'm thinking about stopping any further
study, because I don't know how to continue. I've come to the point when I can
understand any newspaper article, no matter how complex it is, or read Nobel prize
literature in Spanish without any major difficulty, but at the same time unable to
understand a relatively simple conversation. |
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Here's my journey through Spanish, perhaps it'll be of some help.
I came to Mexico about 5 years ago with no Spanish. The only thing I had studied was an MT course. For about the first 6 months to a year I just listened, observed, paid attention to what was going on around me, read the newspaper sometimes, watched TV etc. I didn't take any classes or force myself to speak at that point.
I started speaking about a year or so after being here. I spoke before but by this I mean I began to express myself, participate in conversations more. I think the key to speaking for me was learning how to interact/converse in Spanish. Getting my listening up to high level was important as I couldn't contribute (well) to a conversation I couldn't follow. When I could follow any conversation effortlessly, I found speaking with people much easier. It's a slow process at first but you'll find it gains pace at a terrific rate and before you know it you're fairly fluent, as I was after about 2 years or so. I've found that the higher your listening skills are in one kind of Spanish, the easier it is to understand others. I haven't found the need to study endless books of idioms etc. in order to understand Argentine or Peruvian Spanish.
It's only in the past year or so that I've got into the literature, kind of the reverse of your process. I would say push the listening but also find some way to interact with native speakers. It's depressing at first, especially if you have a high level in other areas but I think it's worth it. |
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Why did you come to Mexico? :) I just think it would be interesting to hear how you got there, I would love to have to move to a foreign country for business or whatever :) |
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Well, it's a long story. I just came for a month to see if things would work out... and that was 5 years ago! Now enjoying life in the last free country in North America! |
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I was actually thinking about moving there, not kidding :D
Spanish speakers seem to be very friendly to people that are either learning or know their language. Can you back this up?
Do you enjoy living there? How's the quality of life and everything?
Mind me asking, but what do you do for a living? (I know it's a rude question to ask, so you don't have to answer if you don't want to, I just want to know what job I can go into to move :P) I'm going to be an engineer :)
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