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| Vinlander Groupie Canada Joined 5821 days ago 62 posts - 69 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 57 of 90 09 April 2010 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Nationalism, religion, opinions, family ties, friendships, and dreams are all kinda fake logically speaking, but this is what people need to live to find any level of happiness. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5838 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 58 of 90 09 April 2010 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Anyone who doesn't realise that the Western lifestyle for the most part is a very selfish lifestyle is seriously fooling themselves. Of course it is. Until you have children you are living mostly for your own gratification unless you happen to be very religious or heavily involved in some very altruistic cause. On the other hand, people in the third world don't have time to get depressed.. And even if they really were depressed, they wouldn't know the concept, or have access to therapists or psychiatrists to diagnose them. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6034 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds | Message 59 of 90 09 April 2010 at 10:59pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
The devil finds work for idle hands. And minds ;p. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5481 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese | Message 60 of 90 09 April 2010 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
*beeeeep* (Buzzer going off for wrong answer) Depression as a classification is a relatively recent term, but realistically you can find references to it going back all the way to Roman times. The term "General Malaise" is usually it is referring to. Or demons. It's something they teach you in a Psych 101 class at college. Those societies had the same condition, it's just sad that the same archaic viewpoints continue till today. I mean on one hand I'm glad you seem to have never experienced it and thus know very little of how it feels, but at the same time its also very disheartening. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5922 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 61 of 90 09 April 2010 at 11:43pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I personally don't need nationalism and religion to be happy. I don't even fit into the mold of nationalism, so it's irrelevant to me. Also, how exactly are family ties and friendships fictional, "logically speaking"?
Is this a joke? Do you honestly think having a friend of a different ethnicity doesn't make you racist? I know some pretty racist people who had black friends. Racism extends beyond calling someone an ethnic slur. I don't want to hijack this topic, so if you're interested in continuing a conversation about racism, you can PM me.
I don't think life has a meaning and I'm pretty happy. No, I don't feel any pride for English's Germanic roots. Or on that matter, Spanish's Latin roots. I don't give a hoot that English has so many Latin words. I don't care where Spanish's words come from (I've even made an effort to 'arabicize' my vocabulary by using Spanish words that come from Arabic rather than Latin. For example, alacran instead of escorpion. It's s great way to expand my vocabulary and learn Arabic words, too).
As someone from "the third world" (lovely vague generalization there), I'm rather offended that you think we "don't have time to get depressed" (what does this even mean? Why wouldn't someone from such a country not have "time to get depressed"?). Let me tell you this: yes, there is depression in less economically developed countries. Edited by lynxrunner on 09 April 2010 at 11:49pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5838 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 62 of 90 10 April 2010 at 12:01am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Are you kidding! Of course I have, and I have very good reasons to. But that's irrelevant. The point was that when you are living one day at a time and your livelyhood is constantly at stake (as is the case for the third world inhabitants) then you don't have time or opportunity to sit and ponder what was missing in your childhood, a family tragedy in the past, whether your self-esteem is sufficient and if your spouse "sees you for who you really are".. etc, etc. Neither do you have the time, money or opportunity to go and get a diagnosis of depression. They also don't compare their lives with people in ads or soap operas and feel like failures because their lives don't match it. That makes a big difference I think. The fake world created in media is the cause of much suffering as people get drawn into this unachievable, yet seemingly so desirable world. Whoever found happiness in life from watching TV or finding the perfect mascara/shampoo/jeans... The happiest countries in the world are not the richest, they are the ones where peoples lives are relatively free of major worries and where people are able to appreciate the little things in life. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6034 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds | Message 63 of 90 10 April 2010 at 12:30am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Incidentally, the Nordic countries are amongst those with the highest "happiness index" (to use the correct boffin terminology) in the world. And the living standard there is also the highest in the world, perhaps except for Japan. So I don't buy the poverty=happiness bullshit, but it's true that a surplus of free time, and the stupid ways of spending it (TV,shopping) can result in more psychological disorders. That is apart form cases where people have problems because of biological reasons. There are cases of clinical depression because of e.g. weird brain chemistry things happening. Also, some people say that psychological disorders are not disorders at all but "neurodiversity"; I'm not sure this applies to depression though. Anyway, what am I talking about ^_^. Edited by Sennin on 10 April 2010 at 12:31am 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| aokoye Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5541 days ago 235 posts - 453 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Dutch, Norwegian, Japanese | Message 64 of 90 10 April 2010 at 12:32am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
So you're saying that a possible reason I'm depressed is because I compare myself to commercials and soap operas (which I don't watch) and because I have too much time on my hands (that I spend knitting, spinning yarn, doing pilates, learning languages, studying for school...). I'm sorry but you're very very wrong. I've been depressed since I was in elementary school, for me it's chemical and more than likely hereditary. It's the same way for a number of other people. Also being sad and mourning the death of a loved one does not equate to clinical depression. That's not to say it isn't extremely painful, but they aren't the same thing. In addition just because you don't know the words to say "hey I'm really depressed and this just isn't going away" doesn't mean you aren't depressed. You could say the same thing about a lot of things (which I won't list because that will derail this thread even further and will probably create more drama). 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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