ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5473 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 9 of 29 12 April 2010 at 7:22am | IP Logged |
Dobrou noc in Czech :).
Czesc. Do widzenia Filipo. (using the vocative there ;)
Edited by ruskivyetr on 12 April 2010 at 7:24am
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TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5456 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian
| Message 10 of 29 12 April 2010 at 7:42am | IP Logged |
Czesc Filipo, from another Filip. Jak sie masz? (Sorry, can't do diacritics.) Polish is
a very cool language and if you persevere it will open the door to a wonderful culture
and a fascinating, if tragic, history.
If you haven't seem them already, go out and rent or buy Krzysztof Kieslowski's Dekalog
series of films. Wonderful stuff.
Edited by TixhiiDon on 12 April 2010 at 7:42am
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Kubelek Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland chomikuj.pl/Kuba_wal Joined 6844 days ago 415 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 11 of 29 12 April 2010 at 6:53pm | IP Logged |
vocative of Filip in Polish would be 'Filipie'. Don't worry about it, vocative is not used with names that much anymore (especially with cześć.)
TixhiiDon:
I should probably finally watch these movies.
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ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5473 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 12 of 29 13 April 2010 at 12:44am | IP Logged |
Kubelek wrote:
vocative of Filip in Polish would be 'Filipie'. Don't worry about it, vocative is not used with names
that much anymore (especially with cześć.)
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Haha I was just using very basic Czech vocative rules (which is for names ending in a mainly) so it wasn't right for
either language. Most of their names ending in a consonant have e for the vocative as well.
I just fail at the vocative :).
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Kubelek Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland chomikuj.pl/Kuba_wal Joined 6844 days ago 415 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 13 of 29 13 April 2010 at 1:18am | IP Logged |
This is how Polish kids learn the vocative:
O, witaj ___! or O, wielki ____ !
the vocative will be whatever form sounds right in the above sentences.
I mean it's so easy ;)
I feel that native speakers of any language are entitled to a certain amount of ignorance when it comes to basic building blocks of their language. This is why native speakers often fail at standarized tests intended for foreigners. When I was younger I used to laugh at native speakers getting low grades on FCE when taking mock tests. If you asked me why a certain word is declined one way or another in Polish I would get an F, too. :)
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TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5456 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian
| Message 14 of 29 13 April 2010 at 5:15am | IP Logged |
Kubelek wrote:
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Shows how much Polish I remember. I put the blame for my mistake solely on ruskivyetr who led me down the wrong vocative path ;)
As for the Dekalog films, they're all pretty grim, although some are grimmer than others, but in terms of architecture and mood they're pretty close to the Warsaw I experienced in Spring 1992, the first time I went there, and so they have a special place in my heart.
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ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5473 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 15 of 29 13 April 2010 at 5:20am | IP Logged |
TixhiiDon wrote:
I put the blame for my mistake solely on ruskivyetr who led me down the wrong vocative path ;)
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Oh but all WE really need is the Georgian vocative ;).
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ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6134 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 16 of 29 13 April 2010 at 6:08am | IP Logged |
Well, time for my report to sum up my Polish studies today. As this experiment is partly just to show that gathering up all of one's idle time and using it for foreign language can be extremely helpful, I have to have idle time to study Polish.
However, I did tell some of my friends about my new project at school today, and predictably a couple of them slapped their foreheads in disbelief that I was taking on yet another language, but not particularly surprised either. Another friend, enchanted after I spoke a bit of the Polish I have learned from my hour's worth of study to her, expressed an interest in perhaps joining me in my challenge. We'll talk about it a bit more at school tomorrow.
So, as for actual study, I only had the correct sort of "idle" time on the bus home today, and as such I only listened to one more lesson of MT Polish. I learned two more verbs:
- umieć (to be able to, know how to)
- gotować (to cook)
So to incorporate these new words into a sentence that I learned...
Dlaczego pan nie umie gotować? (Why can't you cook? [speaking to a man])
Cześć i dobranoc!
--Filip
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