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Greendog
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 Message 1 of 20
14 August 2010 at 3:52am | IP Logged 
Hey everyone!

So recently I've been considering making the switch from Norwegian to Swedish. Although I've been studying Norwegian for a few months, when I looked for a Norwegian dictionary online and couldn't find one (but could find one in Swedish) I began to think that the additional resources for Swedish learning might make the switch worth making despite needing to relearn some things. Also, I was thinking that I may do a semester or two at a Swedish university and I think it's pretty unlikely that I'll do one at a Norwegian university.

However, I have heard that Norwegians have a better understanding of both Swedish and Danish than Swedes do of Norwegian and Danish.

So, what are your thoughts? Do you think it's worth the switch?
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cypherpunks
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 Message 2 of 20
14 August 2010 at 1:12pm | IP Logged 
Regarding the better understanding, I wonder how well it applies to learners of the language. (Common words in Norwegian might be fairly uncommon in Swedish and vice versa, so common words between native/advanced speakers are not necessarily so with a learner.) Personally I find both Danish and Norwegian fairly easy to understand, though Norwegian certainly is easier.

I do remember hearing from a Norwegian that they had a particularily easy time understanding Swedish since they had Swedish television!

If you're thinking of going to Sweden it's a pretty obvious choice. In either case, materials for e.g. LR should be pretty easy to get a hold of, as audiobooks are popular in both countries.
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tractor
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 Message 3 of 20
14 August 2010 at 8:20pm | IP Logged 
cypherpunks wrote:
I do remember hearing from a Norwegian that they had a particularily easy time
understanding Swedish since they had Swedish television!

A lot of people say so, but I think it's a myth. Until quite recently Swedish TV was not available, at least not via
terrestrial TV, in many parts of the country. People from these regions also understand Swedish perfectly well.
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Greendog
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 Message 4 of 20
14 August 2010 at 8:43pm | IP Logged 
I'm not totally decided about going to Sweden - I'm also really considering the University of Copenhagen. I know that Danish is the hardest to understand and speak though, and I've heard education is better in the other two countries than Norway, so that's what's making me consider the switch.


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Dshödsh
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 Message 5 of 20
14 August 2010 at 9:42pm | IP Logged 
Greendog wrote:
However, I have heard that Norwegians have a better understanding of both Swedish and Danish than Swedes do of Norwegian and Danish.


Actually, I would say that this makes Swedish a better choice - it's primarily a question of attitude on the part of the Norwegians rather than Norwegian giving you a better foundation to understand Swedish than vice versa. It certainly helps that Norwegian is far more forgiving of dialectal eccentricities than Swedish.
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vyxir
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15 August 2010 at 11:16pm | IP Logged 
Greendog wrote:

I've heard education is better in the other two countries than Norway, so that's what's making me consider the switch.



This is hardly a general impression, there are good and not-so-good places to study in all three countries. It will always be important to find a specific place to study that you know good things about, I think it's dangerous to make generalizations like that.
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cypherpunks
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 Message 7 of 20
16 August 2010 at 1:21am | IP Logged 
tractor wrote:
cypherpunks wrote:
I do remember hearing from a Norwegian that they had a particularily easy time understanding Swedish since they had Swedish television!

A lot of people say so, but I think it's a myth. Until quite recently Swedish TV was not available, at least not via terrestrial TV, in many parts of the country. People from these regions also understand Swedish perfectly well.

You mean they understand Swedish even without TV? It might not be the reason then. Then again, I'm just passing on what a bunch of Swedish-understanding Norwegians told me.
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mrhenrik
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 Message 8 of 20
16 August 2010 at 2:55am | IP Logged 
Norwegian dialects are largely pushed through state owned channels and media in the
sense that you seem to be more likely to get a presenter job if you speak a dialect
that's very different from the Oslo dialect. Some of the Norwegian dialects could sound
at least in the same neighbourhood as many Swedish dialects, so perhaps Norwegian TV
helps us more? ;)

We have Swedish TV here but I never ever watched it in my life, and I don't think it's
a very common thing to do either.

Anyhow, for the OP's question, I would definitely change to the language of the country
you want to live in. I'd rather spend a few months extra attaining the language I would
actually use than save that time and end up speaking in a way which might make it
difficult to be understood and definitely difficult to understand. Norwegians
understand both languages very well it seems, but these are native Norwegians and not
Norwegian learners.

As an example, I can understand a lot of written Afrikaans because it to me looks like
how old Norwegian texts were written. A student of Norwegian wouldn't have this
experience with old Norwegian texts (most likely), seeing as he wouldn't have them
shoved down his throat during education, and thus he wouldn't have this advantage
either.

Danish might be the trickiest out of the three, but they're still some of the least
difficult languages you can learn as an English speaker.

Also, I think there's several online dictionaries for Norwegian if that's what you
meant?


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