tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5444 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 9 of 20 16 August 2010 at 8:31pm | IP Logged |
cypherpunks wrote:
tractor wrote:
cypherpunks wrote:
I do remember hearing from a Norwegian that they
had a particularily easy time understanding Swedish since they had Swedish television! |
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A lot of people say so, but I think it's a myth. Until quite recently Swedish TV was not available, at least not via
terrestrial TV, in many parts of the country. People from these regions also understand Swedish perfectly
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You mean they understand Swedish even without TV? |
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Yes. Like Mrhenrik, I think the reason may be that Norwegians are used to hearing various dialects and accents. It's
quite normal for people to keep their local dialect when moving to another part of the country. Children are not
taught to speak the standard language (Norwegian Bokmål or Norwegian Nynorsk) at school, only to read and write
it.
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Greendog Triglot Groupie United States Joined 5261 days ago 47 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 10 of 20 16 August 2010 at 9:52pm | IP Logged |
I don't know if it's true that the advantage of understanding the other languages is only for a native - I've only been doing this for a 2-3 months and I can understand some Danish and some Swedish. I imagine that after a year or so I'd be able to understand them both pretty well.
I think I will switch to Swedish though. Does anyone have a recommendation of a good Swedish course? I was thinking of using the FSI course online, but I do like to have a real book in my hands.
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5444 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 11 of 20 16 August 2010 at 10:37pm | IP Logged |
Greendog wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation of a good Swedish course? |
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Have a look here: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=19352&PN=2
Edited by tractor on 16 August 2010 at 10:38pm
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Dshödsh Diglot Newbie Sweden Joined 5207 days ago 14 posts - 20 votes Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC1 Studies: Japanese
| Message 12 of 20 16 August 2010 at 11:07pm | IP Logged |
Greendog wrote:
I don't know if it's true that the advantage of understanding the other languages is only for a native |
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Certainly not! What I meant - if that's the post you were referring to - was that, as a Swedish learner, you will probably understand Norwegian as well as you would understand Swedish if you learnt Norwegian!
Edited by Dshödsh on 16 August 2010 at 11:08pm
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mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6070 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map
| Message 13 of 20 16 August 2010 at 11:39pm | IP Logged |
Greendog wrote:
I don't know if it's true that the advantage of understanding the other
languages is only for a native - I've only been doing this for a 2-3 months and I can
understand some Danish and some Swedish. I imagine that after a year or so I'd be able to
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Yeah, I was more referring to the advantage Norwegian is reputed to have over
Swedish/Danish at understanding the other Scandinavian languages. Perhaps there's
something with the language that makes it easier to understand the other two than if you
were learning, say Swedish, but I believe a big part of this is how native speakers
"feel" about the other languages and of dialectical variances in general.
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cypherpunks Newbie Sweden Joined 5211 days ago 14 posts - 16 votes
| Message 14 of 20 16 August 2010 at 11:49pm | IP Logged |
I've heard that (to some extent) Norwegian is written like Danish and pronounced like Swedish, and that this is what makes it easier for them.
Personally though, I'd put my money on Norwegians being used to dialects, as mentioned above. It certainly isn't too hard for a Swede to understand Danish (or Norwegian) after some practice listening to it, or "getting used to it" as we'd say.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6900 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 15 of 20 17 August 2010 at 12:22am | IP Logged |
Whether a learner of Danish/Norwegian/Swedish happens to get decent passive skills in the other two languages depends on a lot of factors. I recently read a book about multi-lingual families, and one of the example cases was a family where a native English speaker who had learned Norwegian was simply NOT good enough to follow Swedish/Danish.
I think the same can be (and has been) said about the Slavic languages, certain Romance languages (Portuguese/Galician/Spanish/Catalan). Learning one of them won't give you the others "for free".
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Greendog Triglot Groupie United States Joined 5261 days ago 47 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 16 of 20 25 August 2010 at 8:49pm | IP Logged |
Certainly not for free, but one most definitely has a huge discount regardless of
ability. From what I've seen of Norwegian, Danish, and Swedish, if you can read one you
can read them all, but listening is a different matter.
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