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crackpot
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 Message 9 of 12
30 May 2010 at 1:50am | IP Logged 
I agree that it is in the 80-85% range. Since identifying the gender in Spanish is much
easier than in French this is one advantage to learn Spanish first. My French is better
than my Spanish but I still fall back to my Spanish at times if I can't recall a French
gender.
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LtM
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 Message 10 of 12
30 May 2010 at 4:36am | IP Logged 
It gets interesting on those (admittedly rare) occasions where, after you internalize the gender of an item, you then discover that in other languages it's different. My first target language was Spanish, so those are forevermore the genders that I “feel”, and when they differ across languages, it sometimes tries my patience to memorize them. Take for instance “knife”, “fork”, and “spoon”. The first two are, quite logically to me, masculine, and a spoon is, again totally logically to me, feminine. And that's how they are in Spanish. But in in German a knife is neuter and a spoon is masculine. And in both German and French a fork is feminine. How dare they!   ;)

EN      knife ------ fork -------- spoon
ES      el cuchillo   el tenedor      la cuchara
FR      le couteau    la fourchette   la cuillère
DE      das Messer    die Gabel       der Löffel

Nevertheless, I wouldn't worry about having trouble with gender across Romance languages (and of course German is not even a Romance language). I'd just advise you not to begin two (or more) Romance languages at the same time. Spend enough time learning one to get past the beginning stage before you start another, and you shouldn't have too much trouble.
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 Message 11 of 12
31 May 2010 at 5:35pm | IP Logged 
Hencke wrote:
and the masculine case of Fiesta :o


huh?

Edited by furrykef on 31 May 2010 at 5:35pm

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Declan1991
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 Message 12 of 12
31 May 2010 at 6:53pm | IP Logged 
LtM wrote:
Nevertheless, I wouldn't worry about having trouble with gender across Romance languages (and of course German is not even a Romance language).
It's far easier to guess in German though, ironically I always thought given that German has three genders. French to me always seems completely random (I don't know enough Latin to know the etymologies of most words), there never seemed to be any rhyme or reason.


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