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| Faraday Senior Member United States Joined 6108 days ago 129 posts - 256 votes  Speaks: German* | Message 89 of 95 25 January 2011 at 6:10am | IP Logged | ||
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Can you say a little more about this system? For example, what is PVO?
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| uuuuaaaa Newbie Poland Joined 5346 days ago 5 posts - 12 votes Studies: Finnish | Message 90 of 95 04 March 2011 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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If I remember correctly, some people from the forum were trying to experiment with text memorization. How did it worked out?
Here are two other articles on the subject: "Repetition and learning by heart: an aspect of intimate discourse, and its implications" by Guy Cook "Rediscovering recitation" by JI Meng-yue 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Josh Cohen Newbie United States mnemotechnics.org/ Joined 4866 days ago 35 posts - 63 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese, Esperanto | Message 91 of 95 31 October 2011 at 7:07am | IP Logged | ||
I just stumbled across this thread in Google. PVO means Person-Verb-Object. It's also called PAO, or Person, Action, Object. It's a way to encode information (typically numbers) so that they can be memorized. Example PAO system: number = person | action | object 16 = Arnold Schwarzenegger | lifting | barbell 22 = a chef | dicing | onion 81 = a giant | smashing | club Chunk large numbers in 6 digits, and then in twos. The first 2 digits are a person, the second two are an action, and the third two are an object. Examples: 16-22-81 = Arnold dicing a club 22-16-81 = a chef lifting a club 81-16-22 = a giant lifting an onion Visual memory is incredibly powerful, and by placing those images in a memory palace, one can memorize thousands of digits at at time. Giordano Bruno had a similar, but more complex, system for languages, which is described here: http://warburg.sas.ac.uk/index.php?id=446 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fiziwig Senior Member United States Joined 4855 days ago 297 posts - 618 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 92 of 95 01 November 2011 at 5:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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This may be an old thread, but it's new to me and I'm finding a lot of interesting information here.
For my target language, Spanish, I am going to try some of these videos. They have the advantage that the transcript is displayed below the video in real time and the playback can be slowed down for initial practice. http://lomastv.com/ Go down a little ways and click on "El Aula Azul" for a sample of how it works. --gary 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6262 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 93 of 95 26 December 2012 at 3:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think some measure of text memorisation is not only beneficial but practically unavoidable, if you want to get somewhere with foreign language study.
I have recently begun using mnemonics to learn groups of ten L2 vocabulary items. The method itself is fairly well known - you attach the words to memory hook words, like 1. TEA 2. NOAH 3. MAY, 4. RAY and so on. Edited by William Camden on 26 December 2012 at 3:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4701 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 94 of 95 11 January 2014 at 5:40am | IP Logged | ||
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I came across this interesting discussion on memorization of text and wanted to bump it
in case anyone else might find it useful! Any recent experiences with memorization anyone wishes to share? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sterogyl Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4357 days ago 152 posts - 263 votes Studies: German*, French, EnglishC2 Studies: Japanese, Norwegian | Message 95 of 95 14 January 2014 at 7:37am | IP Logged | ||
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If you like it, do it. It's not the only way to go, but it can be very helpful and leads to an immediate sense of achievement. I did it with several texts and I do think it is efficacious. Important: Don't make it TOO hard. I recommend the "first letter method". And why not using a translation as an additional hint? For example:
English: We were in class when the head-master came in, followed by a "new fellow," not wearing the school uniform, and a school servant carrying a large desk. French: N é à l'É, q l P e, s d'u n h e b e d g d c q p u g p. (=Nous étions à l'Étude, quand le Proviseur entra, suivi d'un nouveau habillé en bourgeois et d'un garçon de classe qui portait un grand pupitre.) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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