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TAC 2011 (Team ÇÜ): The Continuing Saga | ||
Tags: Esperanto | Dutch | Translation | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | Italian | Mandarin | German | French | ||
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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5765 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes  Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian | Message 17 of 135 09 January 2011 at 12:34am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi Jinx,
Wow, I didn't realise you'd given yourself so much to do!! Also I've only just realised that German is your major at uni, so being a German fanatic (and there's not really any exaggeration there at all) I'm pretty happy to read that. Glad to hear you've got my Skype address and I look forward to chatting with you there sometime.
There is a fairly strong possibility I'll be in Munich sometime this year, zenmonkey, so when I have that arranged I'll let you know! I've missed Munich, I used to go there quite often a couple of years ago but alas, the frequent trips have stopped. To Jinx, good luck once again, see you around :] Jack 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5692 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 18 of 135 15 January 2011 at 2:12am | IP Logged | ||
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Continued study notes so far:
*ENTRY 6* (6 January 2011) FRENCH 5 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. French total: 5 minutes MANDARIN 10 minutes: reviewed characters & vocab in Anki. Mandarin total: 10 minutes ESPERANTO 10 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. Esperanto total: 10 minutes ITALIAN 5 minutes: read an article in Italian. Italian total: 5 minutes DUTCH 60 minutes: continued Colloquial lesson 2. 10 minutes: reviewed/typed up Assimil lessons 1-4. 20 minutes: did Assimil lesson 5, including pre-transcription. 10 minutes: listened to and sang along with Dutch music. 20 minutes: listened to MT Dutch CD 1, tracks 4-6. Dutch total: 120 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 150 minutes (2h30) --- *ENTRY 7* (7 January 2011) FRENCH 10 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. French total: 10 minutes GERMAN 20 minutes: listened to and sang along with German music. 10 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. German total: 30 minutes MANDARIN 10 minutes: reviewed characters & vocab in Anki. Mandarin total: 10 minutes ESPERANTO 10 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. 10 minutes: read some Esperanto on a forum. Esperanto total: 20 minutes ITALIAN 10 minutes: read some Italian on a forum. Italian total: 10 minutes DUTCH 10 minutes: read some Dutch on a forum. 20 minutes: reviewed Assimil lessons 1-5. 20 minutes: did Assimil lesson 6, including pre-transcription. 26 minutes: listened to MT Dutch CD 1, tracks 7-11. Dutch total: 76 minutes OTHER 5 minutes: reviewed Arabic alphabet in Anki. 5 minutes: reviewed Russian alphabet in Anki. TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 156 minutes (2h36) --- *ENTRY 8* (8 January 2011) GERMAN 7 minutes: watched an interview in German. 10 minutes: listened to music in German. German total: 17 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 17 minutes (0h17) --- *ENTRY 9* (9 January 2011) DUTCH 60 minutes: worked on Colloquial lesson 2. Dutch total: 60 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 60 minutes (1h00) --- *ENTRY 10* (10 January 2011) FRENCH 5 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. French total: 5 minutes GERMAN 5 minutes: listened to music in German. 5 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. German total: 10 minutes MANDARIN 5 minutes: reviewed hanzi & vocab in Anki. Mandarin total: 5 minutes ESPERANTO 5 minutes: reviewed Esperanto vocab in Anki. Esperanto total: 5 minutes DUTCH 38 minutes: listened to music in Dutch. 23 minutes: reviewed Assimil lessons 1-6. 10 minutes: did Assimil lesson 7. 60 minutes: finished Colloquial lesson 2, started lesson 3. 65 minutes: listened to and transcribed MT Dutch CD 1, tracks 1-14. 33 minutes: watched Dutch music videos. Dutch total: 240 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 265 minutes (4h25) OTHER 5 minutes: reviewed Arabic alphabet in Anki. --- *ENTRY 11* (11 January 2011) DUTCH 15 minutes: sang Dutch songs. 20 minutes: continued Colloquial lesson 3. 13 minutes: listened to & transcribed tracks 1-2 of MT Dutch CD 2. 12 minutes: watched Dutch music videos (well, Belgian actually; Clouseau). Dutch total: 60 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 60 minutes (1h00) --- *ENTRY 12* (12 January 2011) GERMAN 12 minutes: watched some German TV. 10 minutes: practiced speaking German. German total: 22 minutes DUTCH 20 minutes: worked on Colloquial lesson 3. Dutch total: 20 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 42 minutes (0h42) --- *ENTRY 13* (13 January 2011) FRENCH 10 minutes: practiced speaking French. French total: 10 minutes GERMAN 15 minutes: practiced speaking German. German total: 15 minutes DUTCH 35 minutes: listened to Dutch music and sang along. Dutch total: 35 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 60 minutes (1h00) Edited by Jinx on 15 January 2011 at 2:15am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| polyglossia Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5403 days ago 205 posts - 255 votes Speaks: French* | Message 19 of 135 15 January 2011 at 5:00am | IP Logged | ||
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Salut Jinx!!!
on peut écrire en français??? comme je ne suis pas sûr de la réponse, je vais quand même continuer en anglais !! :)) ok... it seems that you are very dedicated to your dutch study right now.... so... first of all, I find it amazing you dedicate yourself so much to this language!!! now, since you've already done so much in dutch (how many hours so far??), what kind of goals did you achieve? do you think you could write some sentences in dutch on this log?? how about your achievements regarding the oral part of the language?? by the way, good luck... (as for me, I really feel I need to find a better way to learn dutch... I really dont try to carve "it" into my (to little?) brain... just like portuguese !) Any tips with the oral part??? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5692 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 20 of 135 17 January 2011 at 12:14am | IP Logged | ||
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Salut polyglossia, merci pour ton message! Certainement tu peut écrire en français. C'est très bien pour moi d'avoir un peu de pratique.
Au sujet du néerlandais, moi je trouve aussi que c'est assez difficile de s'habituer au son de la langue. Actuellement j'utilise les cours de Michel Thomas et d'Assimil. Ils sont tous les deux très bien pour améliorer les "listening skills" (comment dit-on cela en français?), parce qu'on parle clairement et lentement. Mais ma méthode préférée est d'écouter des chansons: on chante aussi souvent assez lentement; c'est très facile de trouver les textes en ligne; et il est amusant aussi! (Sorry for my bad French – I would greatly appreciate any corrections!) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5692 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 21 of 135 17 January 2011 at 12:16am | IP Logged | ||
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*ENTRY 14* (14 January 2011)
FRENCH 40 minutes: read Chapter 1 (23 pp.) of "L'homme de Londres" by Georges Simenon. French total: 40 minutes GERMAN 13 minutes: watched TV in German. German total: 13 minutes DUTCH 10 minutes: listened to/sang Dutch music. 5 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. Dutch total: 15 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 68 minutes (1h08) --- *ENTRY 15* (15 January 2011) FRENCH 10 minutes: practiced speaking French. 5 minutes: watched a music video in French. French total: 15 minutes DUTCH 10 minutes: listened to/sang Dutch music. 10 minutes: practiced speaking/listening to spoken Dutch. Dutch total: 20 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 35 minutes (0h35) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5692 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 22 of 135 17 January 2011 at 12:48am | IP Logged | ||
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DUTCH UPDATE
Now I've been studying Dutch just over two weeks (sixteen days, to be exact) and getting in at least a little study almost every day. I think it's about time for some impressions and self-evaluation, don't you? It's very difficult to find a free online evaluation test for Dutch which gives you CEF ratings with your results. The only one I've taken (just now) was this one, and I got a result of 32/50 questions right. That puts me in "false beginner's level" which feels about right. What do I think of Dutch so far? I really like it. I started off with no feelings for it whatsoever, but the more I study it the more I like it. (Funny; the same thing happened with Mandarin.) I find reading Dutch quite easy, due to my knowledge of German. The listening is a bit harder due to the many unfamiliar sounds, especially the diphthongs like "ij" and "ui," but I'm listening to lots of Dutch and Belgian music to help accustom myself to the sound of it. I'm just over one third of the way through the six-week challenge, so I'm going to mostly wait on output for now. As for the future, I like Dutch enough that I would love to return to it in the future, but that might not be for half a year or so – a semester of German study followed by a short trip to France are going to keep German and French taking up most of my plate for the present time. However, I'm going to stick to Dutch throughout the 6WC. I've done about 20 hours so far, and my goal is to hit 60 (averaging out to 10 hrs/week of study) by the end of the challenge. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Li Fei Pro Member United States Joined 5122 days ago 147 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 23 of 135 17 January 2011 at 3:42am | IP Logged | ||
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I like your detailed entries about how you're spending your time and exactly how many minutes you're spending on
each language. It paints a picture of how one can study several languages at once, something that's still a bit of a mystery to me. I admire your hard work and progress--keep it up! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5692 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 24 of 135 04 February 2011 at 11:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ack, I keep track of my studies very carefully in a document on my computer, but I keep forgetting to post my entries to this log! Well, here are the latest updates. By the way, I'm a few days past the 4-week mark now, and I just re-took the test I linked to above. This time I got 35/50 right, which puts me into the "niveau pré-intermédiaire" (I accidentally took the test using the French version of the site instead of the English version this time).
In my personal life, I've had a rough couple of weeks – I've lost a couple of dear ones to cancer in the past months, and am generally dealing with a lot of stress. For a while I was falling behind on my Dutch studies due to this, but now I'm catching up again. We'll see how things progress. --- *ENTRY 16* (16 January 2011) FRENCH 30 minutes: read chapter 2 (15 pp.) of "L'homme de Londres." 10 minutes: wrote on a forum in French. 5 minutes: watched a music video in French. 20 minutes: translated a French poem into English. 5 minutes: watched interviews in French. French total: 70 minutes GERMAN 6 minutes: read German on forums. 9 minutes: watched an interview in German. 18 minutes: listened to music in German. German total: 33 minutes DUTCH 41 minutes: listened to MT CD 2 tracks 1-6; transcribed tracks 3-6. 8 minutes: listened to a Dutch song ("Daar gaat ze" by Clouseau) and tried to transcribe all the lyrics (90% success rate). 18 minutes: listened to audio from "Colloquial Dutch" (lessons 2-3) and shadowed it aloud. 40 minutes: listened to Assimil lessons 1-18. 30 minutes: listened to Dutch music. Dutch total: 137 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 240 minutes (4h00) 6 minutes: listened to an interview in Swiss German. 10 minutes: listened to music in Breton. --- *ENTRY 17* (17 January 2011) FRENCH 5 minutes: reviewed vocab & sentences in Anki. 10 minutes: wrote on a forum in French. 10 minutes: wrote an email in French. 5 minutes: read an email in French. French total: 30 minutes GERMAN 5 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. 20 minutes: read more of "Die Wand." 10 minutes: wrote an email in German. 5 minutes: read an email in German. German total: 40 minutes MANDARIN 5 minutes: reviewed vocab & hanzi in Anki. Mandarin total: 5 minutes ESPERANTO 5 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. Esperanto total: 5 minutes ITALIAN 5 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. Italian total: 5 minutes DUTCH 5 minutes: reviewed vocab in Anki. 18 minutes: listened to & transcribed MT CD 2 tracks 7-9. 42 minutes: listened to Dutch music. 8 minutes: listened to all dialogues from Colloquial so far. 100 minutes: watched a movie in Dutch. Dutch total: 173 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 258 minutes (4h18) --- *ENTRY 18* (18 January 2011) GERMAN 30 minutes: read more of "Die Wand." German total: 30 minutes. DUTCH 90 minutes: watched a movie in Dutch. Dutch total: 90 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 120 minutes (2h00) --- *ENTRY 19* (19 January 2011) GERMAN 40 minutes: read more of "Die Wand." 30 minutes: practiced speaking German. German total: 70 minutes DUTCH 20 minutes: worked on Colloquial lesson 3. 15 minutes: listened to & transcribed MT CD 2, tracks 10-12. 43 minutes: listened to Assimil lessons 1-19, shadowed first two. 12 minutes: listened to Dutch music. Dutch total: 90 minutes TOTAL STUDY TODAY: 160 minutes (2h40) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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