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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5278 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 9 of 21 11 February 2011 at 4:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi, and welcome to the TAC! I am not on your team either, I am in the other Russian team, but we sort of look out for eachother and help eachother regardless of teams as long as we do Russian. What resources do you use for Russian?
Y por supuesto tambien estoy muy contenta de que ahora hay un hispanohablante entre los estudiantes de ruso. De joven estaba tres anos en Espana (lo siento me falta la tilde), y me considero media espanola. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| petrklic Triglot Pro Member Czech Republic Joined 5030 days ago 95 posts - 109 votes Speaks: Czech*, English, Russian Studies: Vietnamese Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 21 12 February 2011 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hey there, welcome to the team!
That goal of 2000 words within 6 moths sounds quite formidable to me. Per my measurements, I'm generally able to learn about 5-7 words a day, long-term, which would get me to about 1000 words within that time frame. Hmm, I guess we (me and joanthemaid) are not very supportive, are we? So I'll add that I also know from experience that it's possible to boost that to as much as about 15-20 a day short-term (a couple weeks when I was in Russia). So it's definitely possible if one works hard, and when you get through, you will just be able to slowly read your way to fluency. Reading with 2000 words is not comfortable, but it works. So go for it! (I've also seen the stories of people being able to cram hundreds of words a day. If these people actually exist, I'm definitely not one of them. My memory has more mundane characteristics.) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| polyglHot Pentaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5010 days ago 173 posts - 229 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, German, Spanish, Indonesian Studies: Russian | Message 11 of 21 12 February 2011 at 9:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I've been studying on my own (not at the school in the link or any other) in Russia for
about 4 months now and I am supposed to have mastered the A2 level according to this: Liden & Denz However the book I am using (New Penguin) tells me how at the end of the book I'll know 1500 words. I have yet to finish the book, but if one talks about so-called active and inactive vocabulary it's possible that I know 1500. When having achieved these levels do you guys test yourselves or, I mean - how do you know that you have actually mastered that level as oposed to having merely read though the book and done the exersizes? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5414 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 12 of 21 13 February 2011 at 12:59am | IP Logged | |||||
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Personally I don't test myself, it's too expensive and I'd rather save up for a trip, but as I've been a teacher I know what CECR level corresponds to what class, so I used to gauge my level at say Russian by comparing it to my students' level in English. Last year I was about 8th grade by the time I stopped, which is a very high A2.
I also compare myself to other people who've actually passed a test, for instance people on this forum who write in English or my husband, who got French B2 two years ago. Unfortunately I rarely hear him speak French, though he must be close to C1 now. The criteria are out there (or here: http://www.coe.int/T/DG4/Portfolio/?M=/main_pages/levels.htm l), and the tests usually have lower standards than the criteria, as you only need to have mastered 60% of a level's skills to be declared that level. Edited by joanthemaid on 13 February 2011 at 1:48am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6086 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 13 of 21 13 February 2011 at 6:01am | IP Logged | |||||
Oh, wow. I thought that you would have to have mastered more like 90% or more of the criteria for a given level. I suddenly feel like I have been evaluating myself too harshly. Perhaps it's time to reevaluate, but I guess it's better to be too harsh than too lax. When people evaluate themselves on here, do they usually use this 60% mastery guideline or strictly abide by the criteria? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| arodriguez66 Diglot Newbie United States lepensuer.wordpress.Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5540 days ago 34 posts - 35 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Russian | Message 14 of 21 13 February 2011 at 3:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
I have several resources: 1. Grammar for Students of Russian 2. 501 Russian verbs. 3. The new Penguin Russian course. 4. First Reader in Russian 5. Russian for Beginners 6. Princeton Russian Course 7. FSI 8. ANKI 9. Bkyi 10. Skype 11. Podcast (several) 12. Usenetpost – good for basic grammar and fun videos in YouTube. 13. Gold list method for vocabulary. 14. Wwitv.com for TV programs 15. Oxford Russian Dictionary 16. Aulafacil.com 17. Linguaphone Russian Course 18. Pimsleur 19. Movies 20. Livemocha.com 21. Mango Languages 22. Bussuu 23. Defense Language Institute 24. MasterRussian.com 25. Assimil – ordered yesterday. 26. Michel Thomas – I will buy this week. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| arodriguez66 Diglot Newbie United States lepensuer.wordpress.Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5540 days ago 34 posts - 35 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Russian | Message 15 of 21 13 February 2011 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
Honestly, those 2000 word will be for a year period. Also I am cheating because I started using common word for English and/or Spanish: метро - metro форум - forum Plus high frequency words: как, что, почему ... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5414 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 16 of 21 13 February 2011 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
Technically, it's a 60% score, but still it means that you can fail some skills (for instance speaking) and still pass, because your other skills are very strong. Otherwise I wouldn't evaluate myself to be a high B2 at Spanish 1 person has voted this message useful |
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