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aerozeplyn
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Message 57 of 200

11 April 2011 at 9:40am | IP Logged

a note on skepticism: there are better ways to utilize your energy.

:)
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Message 58 of 200

11 April 2011 at 2:58pm | IP Logged

aerozeplyn wrote:

a note on skepticism: there are better ways to utilize your energy.

:)

That would mean you are wasting your own energy on being skeptical about the value of
skepticism.
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11 April 2011 at 7:07pm | IP Logged

Abazid wrote:

Quote:

First, there's no reason to believe that something in a superposed state, as you are, can observe itself and thus collapse its own waveform. Matter can't be self-observing or superposition of states would be impossible, thus undermining quantam physics and the whole rationale for you experiment. Schrödinger's cat can't keep itself alive by not looking at the geiger counter. So your belief is irrelevant.

Too bad "I am" not matter .

Then what is typing at your keyboard?

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aerozeplyn
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Message 60 of 200

11 April 2011 at 8:06pm | IP Logged

Splog wrote:

aerozeplyn wrote:

a note on skepticism: there are better ways to utilize your energy.

:)

That would mean you are wasting your own energy on being skeptical about the value of
skepticism.

if you are speaking towards me, then by the definition of "being skeptical" that would not apply to me. for i have not
questioned anything in my comment ;)
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Message 61 of 200

11 April 2011 at 8:54pm | IP Logged

Abazid wrote:

Update :

I'm going to do this 81 hr brainwashing experiment tomorrow .

After lots of research related to what the best material to go through and in what
order, I've decided to drop Rosetta stone , It's supposed to take more than 150 hours
and the russian edition has been criticized hard as ineffective , I'll go only for MT &
Pimsleur for now , Both should give me 2 facets of the language , The speaking &
listening facets , Then I'll have to go through writing & reading in another time .

Basically Michel Thomas Foundation, Advanced & Vocabulary spans about 19 hours combined
+ Pimsleur 3 levels span about 48 hours = 67 hours .

If I'm going to have about 67 hours purely without the 10 min breaks in each hour that
would mean I need exactly about 81 hours as a total .

I'm going to work with MT first (As it needs more thinking rather than repeating) &
Pimsleur in a parallel way , As in finish MT Foundations and then go through Pimsleur
lv I , And then do the same with the rest , This should flow better than finishing each
3 levels of each program first .

Replacing instructors with Audio seems to result in a problem , Staying awake without
passing out !

I'll do some mental programming to prepare myself & support myself with less
foods/drinks that induce sleep , And I'll keep myself by moving around whenever I feel
sleepy , Obviously lots of coffee & maybe physical exercise in the 10 min breaks .

I'm pretty excited about this though =D !

The Michel Thomas materials will take much longer to go through as you have to pause
the recordings to think of your answers. One of the points in the MT method is the
thinking it through and actively trying to recall the information you have been given
to help to solidify it memory. If you just play it through without doing this then you
are not going to learn it properly. The time it will take to get through a CD can take
more than an hour and a half to around two hours.

Good luck with the experiment, it will be interesting to see if you end up retaining it
all at the end.

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Message 62 of 200

11 April 2011 at 9:36pm | IP Logged

jazzboy.bebop wrote:

Actually the MT method isn't really supposed to require you to stop the recordings, but I have heard from others that the Pimsleur method needed to be stopped to properly remember what had already been taught. I didn't need to do that with the Pimsleur course I used for Turkish, but I also listened to it more than once each lesson. That was my original concern - that listening to a recording just once wouldn't be enough, especially considering the number of hours he'd need to stay awake.

Even in college, I don't think I could ever manage to stay awake non-stop for more than 48 hours. And the last 12 hours of those would have been useless.

R.
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Message 63 of 200

11 April 2011 at 9:50pm | IP Logged

hrhenry wrote:

jazzboy.bebop wrote:

Actually the MT method isn't really supposed to require you to stop the recordings, but
I have heard from others that the Pimsleur method needed to be stopped to properly
remember what had already been taught. I didn't need to do that with the Pimsleur
course I used for Turkish, but I also listened to it more than once each lesson. That
was my original concern - that listening to a recording just once wouldn't be enough,
especially considering the number of hours he'd need to stay awake.

Even in college, I don't think I could ever manage to stay awake non-stop for more than
48 hours. And the last 12 hours of those would have been useless.

R.
==

In Pimsleur you don't necessarily need to, but in Michel Thomas it is actively advised
both on the CDs and in their accompanying booklets.

Michel Thomas Booklets wrote:

• Give yourself time to think. The students on the
recordings had all the time
they needed to think out their responses. On the recordings their ‘thinking time’
has been cut in order to make full use of the recording time and to give you all
the time you may need (by pushing your pause button). The pause button is the key to
your learning!

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Message 64 of 200

12 April 2011 at 5:52pm | IP Logged

I suppose this would now be about 48 hours into the project... Any news?

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