Ashley_Victrola Senior Member United States Joined 5705 days ago 416 posts - 429 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Romanian
| Message 145 of 164 11 April 2009 at 2:30am | IP Logged |
Maximus wrote:
I really believe than any healthy individual could become an hyperglot with a lot of determination, dedication and a favourable setting. By that I mean many opportunities for immersion.
What good would an IQ of 165 be if the owner of that number did nothing and didn't want to do anything but watch daytime television and soap operas amongst other mind-numbing activities? Not a lot.
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This is true. My IQ is almost 150. I pick up things quickly but never actually learned or usually care that much about perseverance and what not. Often I wind up with a tortoise and the hare situation. I get complacent since the finish line is like a minute away and then all of a sudden people way below me keep inching up until I'm beat.I think what's rare and makes geniuses or hyperglots and all of these things is when both ability AND dedication are paired.
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Rout Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5711 days ago 326 posts - 417 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish Studies: Hindi
| Message 146 of 164 24 April 2009 at 6:57am | IP Logged |
Ashley_Victrola wrote:
Maximus wrote:
I really believe than any healthy individual could become an hyperglot with a lot of determination, dedication and a favourable setting. By that I mean many opportunities for immersion.
What good would an IQ of 165 be if the owner of that number did nothing and didn't want to do anything but watch daytime television and soap operas amongst other mind-numbing activities? Not a lot.
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This is true. My IQ is almost 150. I pick up things quickly but never actually learned or usually care that much about perseverance and what not. Often I wind up with a tortoise and the hare situation. I get complacent since the finish line is like a minute away and then all of a sudden people way below me keep inching up until I'm beat.I think what's rare and makes geniuses or hyperglots and all of these things is when both ability AND dedication are paired. |
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I believe the point he was trying to make was that anyone with average intelligence has the ability. I personally believe that the average mind was made to learn one language, two languages, three languages, etc., and I've seen it to be true.
Edited by Rout on 24 April 2009 at 6:57am
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Whiskeyjack Newbie Canada Joined 5731 days ago 36 posts - 37 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish, Spanish, Russian
| Message 147 of 164 24 April 2009 at 4:49pm | IP Logged |
I dont care about IQ points, even though i have scored well on Timed IQ tests in the past...
People have to understand that anyone with the right exposure can learn any language(s)...
Its not fair that i say to my friend that he should not go beyond trying to learn french because he has an average IQ....
If you have a high IQ count yourself lucky :)... But you have to take into account all the different variables, like learning disorders etc....
In my opinion if you have a high IQ and are lazy or a procrastinator then your pretty normal... :)
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Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6033 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 148 of 164 24 April 2009 at 5:04pm | IP Logged |
You need an IQ of 6000 like the Holly computer in control of Red Dwarf. Any attempts at polyglottery initiated by inferior individuals will result in severe nose bleeding.
Edited by Sennin on 24 April 2009 at 5:13pm
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zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6371 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 149 of 164 01 June 2009 at 7:15am | IP Logged |
Absolute rubbish. Language has very little at all to do with IQ. In fact, IQ has very
little to do with anything at all.
Edited by zerothinking on 01 June 2009 at 7:15am
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Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6033 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 150 of 164 01 June 2009 at 10:34am | IP Logged |
zerothinking wrote:
Absolute rubbish. Language has very little at all to do with IQ. In fact, IQ has very
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Especially if you have very little of it ^_^.
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zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6371 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 151 of 164 01 June 2009 at 12:24pm | IP Logged |
Sennin wrote:
zerothinking wrote:
Absolute rubbish. Language has very little at
all to do with IQ. In fact, IQ has very
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Especially if you have very little of it ^_^. |
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My point was that IQ tests measure a narrow set of narrow skills - such as maths and
patterns - with a biased test. It's a general indicator of a few skills that can be
learned anyway.
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Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6033 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 152 of 164 01 June 2009 at 12:37pm | IP Logged |
zerothinking wrote:
Sennin wrote:
zerothinking wrote:
Absolute rubbish. Language has very little at
all to do with IQ. In fact, IQ has very
little to do with anything at all. |
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Especially if you have very little of it ^_^. |
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My point was that IQ tests measure a narrow set of narrow skills - such as maths and
patterns - with a biased test. It's a general indicator of a few skills that can be
learned anyway. |
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I was just teasing you :). I agree the range of measured skills is limited but keep in mind one of them is verbal reasoning. The verbal reasoning part is usually in the form of logic tasks presented as short paragraphs of text. Is this relevant to language learning? It may well be, at least to some extend.
More broadly speaking, you can't discard IQ as completely irrelevant. I know several people who scored very high on IQ tests (enough to get into MENSA) and it really shows, they're bright in many ways. One thing that IQ tests fail to measure is talent. Artistic talent, and perhaps also "linguistic talent", is a very specific thing that a general IQ test definitely fails to capture.
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