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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5453 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 9 of 20 20 July 2011 at 12:32am | IP Logged | |||||
If you are thinking about TV, only parts of the country had access to Swedish TV 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago.
Since there are so many young Swedes working in Norway right now, many young Norwegians are exposed to Swedish every time they go out for a beer or they go shopping. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| matthewmartin Triglot Newbie United States suburbandestiny.com Joined 6199 days ago 22 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Toki Pona | Message 10 of 20 20 July 2011 at 1:14am | IP Logged | |||||
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The more motivated you are, the easier it is to learn a language. The more language
materials there are to consume, the more exciting it is to learn a language. I think it is easiest to learn a language with a robust, widely available pop culture- e.g. non- artsy movies, comics, TV, kids books. Without the mass media, you'll be using your new skill for writing in your diary. By this standard, Danish is easier because it has more and better movies than Sweden, especially the Danish comedies. But Sweden has better children's literature. The Donald Duck comics are available all over Scandinavia in all languages (although my copy says they are at least printed in Denmark) There are just fewer Norwegians and accordingly fewer Norwegian movies, etc. The trick of knowing one Scandinavian language and being able to understand the other 2, appears to be sort of a super advanced skill. A Swedish acquaintance of mine told a story about a Swede, Norwegian and Dane that met at a conference and they for a while agreed to each speak their native tongue and they'd all just figure it out. They gave up and switched to English. That said, when I watch Danish movies, I understand more than I feel like I deserve to understand because I've only studied a bit of Swedish and a lot of Icelandic. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5051 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani | Message 11 of 20 20 July 2011 at 2:10am | IP Logged | |||||
Which are what? I always thought Sweden had better cinema. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| matthewmartin Triglot Newbie United States suburbandestiny.com Joined 6199 days ago 22 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Toki Pona | Message 12 of 20 20 July 2011 at 2:28am | IP Logged | |||||
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I recently watched 'The Boss of it All' (Danish: Direktøren for det hele) which was
really funny. My acquaintances tell me I need to see "Klovn" (Clown), which is a TV Danish show. My pet theory is that the low budget Dogma style of making movies (plus digital video) led to a boom in Danish movie output, and they just got better from experience of making so many more movies. I find Ingmar Bergman movies unwatchable and too many Swedish directors copied him-- slow ponderous and not interesting. The Danish "Kærlighed på film" on the other hand so interesting I was unable to stop watching. By comparison, Ingmar Berman's movies are strong sedatives suitable for keeping you under during surgery. Kopps is a good Swedish comedy I liked. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5051 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani | Message 13 of 20 20 July 2011 at 3:39am | IP Logged | |||||
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Sweden has Ulf Malmros and Lukas Moodysson. Many more I'm sure, but those two are enough to establish a good name for contemporary Swedish cinema.
And if you want "slow ponderous and not interesting" that also leaves a bad aftertaste for years to come, you don't need to go further than Denmark's very own Lars von Trier. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6125 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 14 of 20 20 July 2011 at 8:53am | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah, Donald Duck is an institution in Finland. I'm not sure why even. I didn't realize the Donald Duck situation extended to all Nordic countries. What is the story here? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 15 of 20 20 July 2011 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
I noticed that too when I was in Finland too. There're plenty of Donald Duck comics at any bookstore or even the occasional R-Kiosk. A partial explanation from my Finnish friends is that they identify more with Donald than Mickey. In the Finns' eyes, Donald seems like a stereotyped Finn in that he's stubborn but usually has good intentions. He basically will keep trying until everything collapses (something like sisu). In addition, Mickey seems so cheerful, naive, gets all of the attention or is the de facto boss. For some Finns he's a bit like a stereotypical Swede. Just like Donald often wants to tell Mickey to keep quiet, Finns often want Swedes to do likewise :-P 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| petteri Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4932 days ago 117 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: German, Spanish | Message 16 of 20 21 July 2011 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
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To my experience Swedish and Norwegian Bokmål in spoken form are dialects of same language, they are just written bit differently. Nynorsk then differs more from Swedish or Bokmål, but distance is less than from Skåne dialect to Rikssvenska (standard Swedish). Edited by petteri on 21 July 2011 at 3:17pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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