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Cainntear
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 Message 97 of 134
18 January 2009 at 1:12pm | IP Logged 
slucido wrote:
The underlying method is "repeat until you get sick". This is necessary if we want to fix language at a reflex level. I am sorry, but this is the true. No shortcuts here.

Repetition occurs naturally. The war with Iraq will be on the news every day. Every Monday you'll hear about road accidents. Politicians drone on about the same policies day in, day out. You don't actually need to repeat material, because language is finite, and everything is recycled and repeated.
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 Message 98 of 134
18 January 2009 at 1:37pm | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:
slucido wrote:
The underlying method is "repeat until you get sick". This is necessary if we want to fix language at a reflex level. I am sorry, but this is the true. No shortcuts here.

Repetition occurs naturally. The war with Iraq will be on the news every day. Every Monday you'll hear about road accidents. Politicians drone on about the same policies day in, day out. You don't actually need to repeat material, because language is finite, and everything is recycled and repeated.


Regarding language learning, repetition doesn't occur naturally. You need to switch on the TV every day and listen again and again the same rubbish. This is willpower...


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 Message 100 of 134
18 January 2009 at 11:11pm | IP Logged 
slucido wrote:
Regarding language learning, repetition doesn't occur naturally. You need to switch on the TV every day and listen again and again the same rubbish. This is willpower...


This is repetition by willpower. Others find materials they are interested in and then the repetition is natural.




Edited by frenkeld on 18 January 2009 at 11:12pm
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Cainntear
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 Message 101 of 134
19 January 2009 at 8:00am | IP Logged 
slucido wrote:
Regarding language learning, repetition doesn't occur naturally. You need to switch on the TV every day and listen again and again the same rubbish. This is willpower...

You're missing my point. You said:

slucido wrote:
it's useful to extract their audios into mp3 players and listening them repetitively

What I mean is that you don't need to listen to any piece of audio "repetitively", because the language will recurr in other pieces of audio.

So yes, you switch on the TV every day and you get different material that has similar content.

Switching on the TV every day is vastly preferable to listening to the same prerecorded material every day, both in terms of learner interest and in terms of the language itself.

Incidentally... have any of you seen www.livestation.com? News in half-a-dozen languages, among other things.
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 Message 102 of 134
19 January 2009 at 8:26am | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:
Switching on the TV every day is vastly preferable to listening to the same prerecorded material every day, both in terms of learner interest and in terms of the language itself.


I can't agree more. I couldn't imagine repeating the same thirty minute dialogue (from a soap opera for example) over and over if I have the option to just watch the next episode. I would be bored stupid.


Cainntear wrote:
Incidentally... have any of you seen www.livestation.com? News in half-a-dozen languages, among other things.


Very impressive, cheers. I would appreciate it if anyone else could add some links like this (especially for French and Spanish).
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 Message 103 of 134
19 January 2009 at 10:58am | IP Logged 
frenkeld wrote:
slucido wrote:
Regarding language learning, repetition doesn't occur naturally. You need to switch on the TV every day and listen again and again the same rubbish. This is willpower...


This is repetition by willpower. Others find materials they are interested in and then the repetition is natural.





I am watching "The Office" (UK version). I like it a lot, but after watching and listening with my mp3 player every episode more than 10 times, I begin to feel sick, but it's useful.







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 Message 104 of 134
19 January 2009 at 11:01am | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:

Switching on the TV every day is vastly preferable to listening to the same prerecorded material every day, both in terms of learner interest and in terms of the language itself.

Incidentally... have any of you seen www.livestation.com? News in half-a-dozen languages, among other things.


It's cheaper to listening the same prerecorded material, more if we are talking about DVD sitcoms. If you watch the news, you will know we are in a international crisis...




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