Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6002 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 105 of 134 19 January 2009 at 11:53am | IP Logged |
Put it this way...
doing the same crossword every day doesn't teach you how to solve crosswords, and driving the same route every day doesn't teach you how to navigate.
And while Euronews is available free online, it's actually cheaper and easier for me to watch different material every day.
Edited by Cainntear on 19 January 2009 at 11:54am
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reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6438 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German
| Message 106 of 134 19 January 2009 at 12:52pm | IP Logged |
slucido wrote:
If you mix watching TV and DVD series with reading pulp fiction, you have the best input method, because they have the real language. You will only need interaction with native speakers. Maybe drilling the basics ad nauseam is a good supplement.
The worst method is classical literature or cultural TV broadcasts.
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I thought there was no "best method" and yet you are slowly and surely establishing "the best method" - yours.
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frenkeld Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6934 days ago 2042 posts - 2719 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German
| Message 107 of 134 19 January 2009 at 1:19pm | IP Logged |
slucido wrote:
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I am not quite sure what type of "cultural" TV broadcasts you are talking about, but science broadcasts are sort of like news, easy to follow.
Also, what sort of "classical literature" are we talking about? Cervantes is not a good place to start, but Pérez Galdós is from the late 19th century and would be closer to the modern language. Less than about 100 to 150 year old books, depending on the language, seem usable from the beginning for those who can only take so much chick lit or mystery novels.
There are also newspapers.
Edited by frenkeld on 19 January 2009 at 1:25pm
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slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6666 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 108 of 134 19 January 2009 at 2:30pm | IP Logged |
reineke wrote:
slucido wrote:
If you mix watching TV and DVD series with reading pulp fiction, you have the best input method, because they have the real language. You will only need interaction with native speakers. Maybe drilling the basics ad nauseam is a good supplement.
The worst method is classical literature or cultural TV broadcasts.
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I thought there was no "best method" and yet you are slowly and surely establishing "the best method" - yours. |
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Depend on your goals. The average people have average goals, therefore classical literature and cultural telly is rubbish. Huge waste of time.
Well, if you want to learn a lot of useless vocabulary and expressions, I recommend you classical literature with the LR method.
Edited by slucido on 19 January 2009 at 2:36pm
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slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6666 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 109 of 134 19 January 2009 at 2:35pm | IP Logged |
frenkeld wrote:
slucido wrote:
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I am not quite sure what type of "cultural" TV broadcasts you are talking about, but science broadcasts are sort of like news, easy to follow. |
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If it's easy to follow in your own language, maybe it's worth it. I think popularization of science is useful.
frenkeld wrote:
Also, what sort of "classical literature" are we talking about? Cervantes is not a good place to start, but Pérez Galdós is from the late 19th century and would be closer to the modern language. Less than about 100 to 150 year old books, depending on the language, seem usable from the beginning for those who can only take so much chick lit or mystery novels. |
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Useless.
If you want to learn Spanish, I forbid you Cervantes, Pérez Galdós and so on.
If you want to read those books, find a good translation in your native language and don't waste your time.
frenkeld wrote:
There are also newspapers.
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Useful, yes.
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frenkeld Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6934 days ago 2042 posts - 2719 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German
| Message 110 of 134 19 January 2009 at 3:12pm | IP Logged |
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If you want to read those books, find a good translation in your native language and don't waste your time. |
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Are you trying to tell me that Spanish isn't worth learning?
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6002 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 111 of 134 19 January 2009 at 5:02pm | IP Logged |
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Are you trying to tell me that Spanish isn't worth learning? |
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Of course he is -- he's Catalan.
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NB Groupie Canada Joined 5525 days ago 42 posts - 45 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, Japanese
| Message 112 of 134 30 September 2009 at 6:18am | IP Logged |
I've been watching Korean TV for about 5+ years...can't say I've learned a lot from TV, mostly vocabulary, some phrases, and pronunciation. Mainly helped me understand the culture better. Movies are a little different as I can at least pause and repeat certain scenes over and over again.
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