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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4849 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 17 of 80 03 June 2012 at 1:40pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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Välkommen!
I'm glad you have decided to learn a Scandinavian language. I love Swedish and Sweden, so this is an excellent choice! Swedish pronunciation is not as tricky as it seems, Polish pronunciation is much trickier! :) The only real problem is the sje-sound [ɧ]. Okay, pitch accent takes some time to get acquainted to, but I didn't find it too difficult. And as you have already studied some Mandarin, you should be used to tonal languages. Swedish is an excellent start into the Germanic languages (after English, of course). It shares many loanwords with German, but has an easier grammar. I also used Svenska utifrån when I took Swedish at university. It's a good book, although it is exclusively in Swedish. Lycka till med dina studier! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4864 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 18 of 80 03 June 2012 at 3:21pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Well, Europe has chosen ;) But it was one of these "must be learned during my life" languages. So, better sooner than later.
Good to read it - chrząszcze w Szczebrzeszynie się ucieszą ;)
What's the problem with this sound? Maybe you haven't been listening to Nanne Gronvall too often: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1nKSh2QGk
'Some' is an accurate word. But, to be honest, a thing that came to my mind yesterday (or today? dunno) was that in this case Chinese seems to be easier :-o (at least Swedish doesn't have thousands of characters)
Tack! P.S. Today in the supermarket I've met two Swedish girls (two beautiful Swedish girls, I'll add) and I've felt so awful that I couldn't say anything meaningful in Swedish :( Let's hope this will change soon. Pity that I don't know any Swede who comes to Euro 2012. Or maybe I'll write on Couchsurfing's group and see. P.S. 2 Don't worry my dear forumers, in this Swedish Euphoria I don't forget about the rest of my languages. The closest exams are, in the time order: Chinese, Persian, Slovene. Edited by prz_ on 03 June 2012 at 3:24pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5014 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 19 of 80 03 June 2012 at 7:01pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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Ahoj, využívám tvou nabídku psát sem česky (i když to dá sakra práci snažit se psát
spisovně. Dám si pozor na gramatiku, abych tě nepletla, ale svého osobitého stylu a slovníku se nevzdám :-) ) . Nedávno jsem si nainstalovala Skype a ráda si budu povídat, jen co trochu opadne zkouškové šílenství. Už déle se chystám na polštinu, ale zatím jsem se k ní moc nedostala. Snad po zkouškách (až na to že tak trochu "Non credo in vitam post examinis":-( ). Jak daleko jsi s češtinou? Jestli rozumíš radiožurnálu, tak to není špatné. Sice tam používají téměř čistě spisovný jazyk (jsou veřejnoprávní, takže asi musí), ale jejich témata jsou celkem různorodá. Každopádně jejich hudební vkus prosím nepovažuj za reprezentativní vzorek vkusu národa, to by pro nás byla mezinárodní ostuda :-D 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4849 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 20 of 80 03 June 2012 at 8:44pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
I totally agree on that - whatever it means! ;)
Well, I haven't listened to this lady indeed - not my type of music. Anyway, I actually didn't mean to say that I had a particular problem with that sound, it was more like "If there's a problem with a sound in Swedish, then it's probably this one".
Oooooookaaaaaayyyyy... I'm not quite sure what to respond to this... It's something between "Are you really serious?" and "Are you completely out of your mind?". :-P
Just say: "Du har vackra ögon." That should do the trick! :-D 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4864 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 21 of 80 03 June 2012 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Pokračuj :)
Zdá se, že je to mezinárodní věc.Dnes dokonce v BBC mluvili to samé :P Byl bych rád pomoct tobě s polským.
S chápání je lepší ("moc moc lepší" ;) ) než při mluvení. Ale to není že rozumím všechno, více z kontextu. To by bylo skvělé pohovořit, znaj jen, že během prvního týdne můj mluvený česky bude tragický - Nemluvil jsem (a nemluvím) mnoho v češtině :(
'The beetles in Szczebrzeszyn will be delighted'
Oooooookaaaaaayyyyy... Remember, I learn Chinese for several months and Swedish... for three days?
Definitely better than 'Du har vackra rumpa'. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5014 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 22 of 80 04 June 2012 at 12:17am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
small corrections (drobné opravy): na BBC dnes mluvili o tom samém. Rád ti pomohu s polštinou/s polským jazykem (s polským jazykem zní formálněji, polština je běžnější) [/uote]
S chápání je lepší ("moc moc lepší" ;) ) než při mluvení. Ale to není že rozumím všechno, více z kontextu. To by bylo skvělé pohovořit, znaj jen, že během prvního týdne můj mluvený česky bude tragický - Nemluvil jsem (a nemluvím) mnoho v češtině :( [/QUOTE] "Rozumím lépe než mluvím" zní přirozeněji, ale "s porozuměním je to lepší než s mluvením"by taky ško. Ale to neznamená, že rozumím vše, hodně (nebo by šlo dost) rozumím z kontextu. znaj jen? řekla bych, že tohle je polsky, hádám že to je "ale věz" nebo "ale měl bych tě varovat" :-D, že během prvního týdne bude má mluvená čeština tragická. Moc/mnoho jsem toho česky nenamluvil. Píšeš dobře, ale občas je to angličtina převlečená za češtinu. Čteš česky? Myslím, že přečtení aspoň pár knížek by tě mohlo v tomto ohledu hodně posunout :-) Co rád čteš? Třeba bych měla nějaké doporučení :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4849 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 23 of 80 04 June 2012 at 12:33am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Indeed, but I wouldn't be a true language nerd if I didn't tell you that it had to be "Du har en vacker rumpa". Anyway, good luck with the Swedes and their fascinating tongue. Edited by Josquin on 04 June 2012 at 12:34am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4864 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 24 of 80 04 June 2012 at 12:45am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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Language nerds here are always appreciated.
By the way, how do you estimate your level of Swedish? B2? C1? C2? And how many years do you learn it? Edited by prz_ on 04 June 2012 at 12:54am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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