Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6866 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language
| Message 17 of 89 22 November 2011 at 9:36pm | IP Logged |
1) Not yet.
2) Yep! Been a goal of mine for years. :-)
3) On no other basis other than personal reasons, I won't consider myself a polyglot until I am fluent in five languages. What I mean by fluency: generally educated writing and speaking; generally correct spelling, pronunciation, and grammar; comprehension of written common media with seldom dictionary usage, and understanding sustained speech in at least personal conversations.
This is my baseline standard of fluency for myself that I've come to over the years. Although it's not explicitly stated, I have to have a fair degree of comfort in the language, which means confidence in expressing anything I want with a fluid and not thrown-together way. It doesn't include elegance, which I think comes only with more usage, and not every language I see myself using as much.
I also am hoping to learn well over five languages, from many different families. Included on my hit list: Finnish, Arabic, Lakota, Japanese, French, Norwegian, and Swahili, for example.
Also, it's not something I'd brag about. I'm doing this out of joy, not ego-stroking.
:-)
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6781 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 18 of 89 22 November 2011 at 9:37pm | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
numerodix wrote:
No, because some of them tend to be rather
pretentious and I have no need to be in some
elite club where we look down on non-members.
Factually I am, but I don't call myself that. |
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Are you not a human either? |
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I beg your forgiveness, but I don't follow.
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5667 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 19 of 89 22 November 2011 at 9:39pm | IP Logged |
numerodix wrote:
No, because some of them tend to be rather pretentious and I have no
need to be in some elite club where we look down on non-members. |
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But that then puts you in the club of people who look down on people who look down on
people, which cannot possibly exist, due to Russel's paradox.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5379 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 20 of 89 22 November 2011 at 9:41pm | IP Logged |
numerodix wrote:
Arekkusu wrote:
numerodix wrote:
No, because some of them tend to be rather
pretentious and I have no need to be in some
elite club where we look down on non-members.
Factually I am, but I don't call myself that. |
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Are you not a human either? |
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I beg your forgiveness, but I don't follow. |
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I assumed that if you disliked any group where some members are pretentious and look down on non-members, that perhaps you also avoided calling yourself a human being.
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5128 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 21 of 89 22 November 2011 at 9:47pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
1. Do you consider yourself a polyglot?
2. Are you planning to become one?
3. If you are, what are you planning to achieve before you can call yourself a polyglot?
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1. - Never thought about it. The label isn't important enough for me to worry either way.
2. - See 1.
3. - See 1.
R.
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6781 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 22 of 89 22 November 2011 at 9:48pm | IP Logged |
Splog wrote:
But that then puts you in the club of people who look down on people who
look down on
people, which cannot possibly exist, due to Russel's paradox. |
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Arekkusu wrote:
I assumed that if you disliked any group where some members are
pretentious and look down on non-members, that perhaps you also avoided calling yourself
a human being. |
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Two excellent responses. I wish I had something clever to say now, but I'm outclassed.
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Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6866 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language
| Message 23 of 89 22 November 2011 at 9:50pm | IP Logged |
Oh lordy, I love me a good philosophy chat, but let's not start this young thread out with a semantic battle. :-P
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Juаn Senior Member Colombia Joined 5343 days ago 727 posts - 1830 votes Speaks: Spanish*
| Message 24 of 89 22 November 2011 at 9:52pm | IP Logged |
"I can see your vanity under your ragged clothes"
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