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Tags: Chic Factor | Vietnamese | Thai | Esperanto | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | Mandarin | Japanese | Spanish | ||
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| Takato Tetraglot Senior Member HungaryRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5047 days ago 249 posts - 276 votes  Speaks: Hungarian*, EnglishB2, GermanB2, Japanese | Message 57 of 58 15 October 2012 at 2:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thanks! You should try it some day. ;) And yeah, when translating, I need to think of the meaning of all the words. Getting the gist is not enough, so it helps me improve. I'll definitely do it with Japanese, too, but I need to get to a higher level first.
It was summer break, so I had plenty of time. Watching one episode (21 minutes) required me to look up words for about 4 hours, so when I watched one episode it was already more than 3 hours learning for that day. I have spent most of my time thinking about how I'll move to New Zealand, so this period of time wasn't spent so well language-wise. I restarted watching an anime that I stopped watching 2 years ago. I cleaned my laptop from unnecessary files and moved the necessary files to a sensible structure. I thought of visiting Berlin/London for a week or so, but then I guess visiting expensive places like those are not for the Eastern European. I registered at the library of the college of New Danube City and found a good amount of Japanese lingual books, so I got a phrasebook for myself. The elementary textbook seemed too easy so I think a phrasebook would be more efficient for filling in the holes in my knowledge. By the way the other language books are almost all Russian/German/English. Lingual study on 28.09 - 14.10:  25 minutes Japanese anime. It wasn't too easy, hence the phrasebook.
36 minutes phrasebook (it's a Hungarian-Japanese one)
 90 minuts Elementary Vietnamese
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| Takato Tetraglot Senior Member HungaryRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5047 days ago 249 posts - 276 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, EnglishB2, GermanB2, Japanese | Message 58 of 58 04 January 2013 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Divided by languages Chinese 263 h 10 min reading 124 h 6 min writing 15 h 59 min textbook 24 h 44 min listening 17 h 35 min vocab 73 h 3 min grammar 6 h 26 min pronunciation 1 h 17 min I wouldn't have thought that Chinese would be the language I learned most in 2012. I'm glad I did it. My written comprehension has significantly improved. I can understand like 50% of the text in a subtitle. The vocab time above is made up of mostly hanzi, so I'll have to learn sentences if I want to do some writing (which above is made up of mostly hanzi as well), since it seems if I learn the hanzi only, with some words, then lack of context makes me use them wrong.
So I also learned that it's better to do chat only if I can construct basic sentences well, which wasn't the case this year, due to prioritizing written comprehension. Vietnamese 84 h 45 min grammar 1 h listening 19 h 49 min textbook 62 h 33 min writing 54 min reading 19 min vocab 10 min Vietnamese was the language that made me understand how tones work. I started to learn it with a textbook. I like it that a book doesn't require me looking at the monitor and that it has audio. It also makes the progress seen more easily, due to having chapters. Also, whenever I use a textbook, I'll be adding the words to Anki so I don't forget the words when going to the next chapter, and going back to a book after a short time gap will be easier. I forgot most Vietnamese words because I didn't think of it earlier. ._. That one hour grammar also made me realize that - at least for me - grammar is no good early on. Maybe it'd work if I added the sentences in the grammar book to Anki, but I like to read grammar so much more when I already know a significant amount of the content due to previous experience in the language. As I like how it sounds, I plan to return to Vietnamese sooner or later, maybe when I have solidified a learning schedule. Japanese 76 h 10 min translating 9 h 57 min grammar 13 h 38 min listening 12 h 4 min vocab 7 h 50 min reading 3 h 50 min kanji 24 h 34 min writing 4 h 17 min Having been on Team い, Japanese got in the top 3. I loved reading the grammar books but I surely have a way to go for vocab and I should attempt to speak it in the near future. I can say that my grammar got better and I learned some phrases, but the latter is probably due to having learned Chinese with anime. After pausing the video and translating a line, I knew the meaning and could focus on the Japanese speech following it. Spanish 47 h 4 min writing 4 h 50 min vocab 2 h listen 23 h 17 min game 7 h 7 min reading 9 h 50 min On the beginning of the year, I needed to use Google Translate on almost any sentences I wanted to write, while now I only need it occassionally, when chatting, so it certainly got better. I get the gist of most of the Spanish dubbed/subbed anime as well, so I'm satisfied with the level I reached. I don't intend to burn my knowledge, I will continue learning it, but I don't think it'd be too interesting to document it so I'll do it in the background. It's okay if it only advance slowly. I tasted Esperanto (10 h 12 min), Thai (6 h 11 min), Portuguese and French somewhat, used German a bit to stop it from fading away (and English). From these languages, I will try to learn Esperanto and Thai sometime, but they're not a priority. I guess it'll be Portuguese that wins, because I like how it sounds. French is definitely for later if ever. Language learning overall 487 h 32 min I was certainly amused by the language wanderlust so I'm glad I chose to do them. I undoubtedly developed a love for the Chinese language. I'm not very satisfied with how much time I spent on Japanese so the beginning of TAC 2013 will be a good time to change that. I guess I'll just need to concentrate on my focus language(s) more if I want to make the most improvement in them. It was nice to be a part of the TAC. I was passed down the knowledge of what others think of my actions and I had the honor of getting acquainted with others' methods as well. Edited by Takato on 04 January 2013 at 8:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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