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| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes  Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 281 of 306 22 November 2012 at 6:33pm | IP Logged |
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So called 'Grypsera' a Polish prison slang.
Name a non IE lngg using a vocative case. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4770 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish | Message 282 of 306 22 December 2012 at 11:08pm | IP Logged |
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Georgian.
Been a long time since I posted here! Okay, I hope this one is sufficiently tricky (and that nobody asked a similar question in the pages that I missed): Name a living non-Indo-European language native to Europe that has descendants and/or creoles used by communities on every continent other than the Antarctic (for the purposes of this question, Australia is included in the continent of Oceania). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 283 of 306 22 March 2013 at 12:57pm | IP Logged |
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That's a very hard question.
The only language I can think of is Basque, as it used to have a Creole in North America, but I 've never heard of anything like that in Africa or Asia. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4770 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish | Message 284 of 306 22 March 2013 at 4:53pm | IP Logged |
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Hehe, nope, not Basque. Oh, and I have to modify my original question. Browsing Wikipedia today I came across some information that contradicts my original assumptions. The inclusion of the "Oceanian" language in the list of language X's descendants and or creoles turned out to be controversial, with a source suggesting that it has actually been disproved. So I guess that narrows down the list of continents to Europe, Asia, Africa, North America and South America (although I guess descendants of language X that originated elsewhere are used in parts of Oceania). Hope that helps :)
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| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5098 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German | Message 285 of 306 23 March 2013 at 12:50am | IP Logged |
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Does Turkish count?
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| vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4770 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish | Message 286 of 306 23 March 2013 at 1:32am | IP Logged |
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As a European language? I'd say yes. Not sure if it fits my question though. Note that my question was specifically referring to descendants and creoles, not merely related languages. Even if there was a well-established historical link between Turkic and Amerindian languages it wouldn't count since Turkish is generally not viewed as the same language as Proto-Turkic/Proto-Altaic/etc.
Okay, should I start dropping hints now or just come out and say the answer? I'll definitely do the latter if someone accuses me of making stuff up:) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5098 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German | Message 287 of 306 28 March 2013 at 11:37pm | IP Logged |
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I guess you might as well tell us what it is.
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| vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4770 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish | Message 288 of 306 29 March 2013 at 5:25am | IP Logged |
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Okay, the answer iiiiiiiis... French Sign Language! As the ancestor of the French Sign Language family its confirmed descendants include Russian SL (Europe), ASL (North America), Bolivian SL (South America), Ghanaian SL (Africa) and Malaysian SL (Asia). I had originally included Hawaiian Pidgin SL, but while it's included in the family tree on the French Sign language family page, its own article states that it's unrelated to ASL (plus, even if the family tree was in the right, it would have technically been a creole of ASL, not of FSL).
Okay, a simpler question: name a language that lacks the phonemic contrast between voiced and voiceless consonants. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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