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| Itikar Groupie Italy Joined 4670 days ago 94 posts - 158 votes  Speaks: Italian* | Message 81 of 107 27 February 2012 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
Maybe in this way http://www.gramota.ru/spravka/letters/?rub=plural ? It doesn't seem so different in action from the Latin grammar rules you quote.
I have had several experience in person that showed me the contrary. Or at least, that a wrong stress or a wrong plural in the context of a grammatically correct sentence are rarely extremely critical for being understood. I bet that if I say Я хотел бы малЕнький кофЕ с молОком, instead of мАленький кОфе с молокОм it won't get me an orange juice. Perhaps are you trying to convince me that Russian is a hard dreadly incomprehensible language that only superhuman beings can learn? Thou wilt never do! Not even Latin is, and in comparison Russian has just 3 declensions with redundant plurals (genitive excluded). Irregulars are paid off by less ambiguity, and even if pronunciation and stress are a bit harder they are nothing which practice and experience cannot deal with. If such language was so difficult why was it used as an international language and as a tool of communication? And why then so many people after 20 years from the collapse of the Soviet Union still use it so willingly even with non-Russian foreigners? I don't think they do so for utter spirit of self-harm. Edited by Itikar on 27 February 2012 at 3:53pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 82 of 107 27 February 2012 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Perhaps are you trying to convince me that Russian is an hard dreadly incomprehensible
language that only superhuman beings can learn? I'm not. Not even Latin is, and in comparison Russian has just 3 declensions with redundant plurals (genitive excluded). Just. If such language was so difficult why was it used as an international language and as a tool of communication? And why then so many people after 20 years from the collapse of the Soviet Union still use it so willingly even with non-Russians foreigners? I don't think they do so for utter spirit of self-harm. You know the answer yourself. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Itikar Groupie Italy Joined 4670 days ago 94 posts - 158 votes Speaks: Italian* | Message 83 of 107 27 February 2012 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In fact, because Russian has absolutely a potential comparable to English, as international language.
With the difference that while a stress-mark can clear any doubt of pronunciation regarding a text, for English there is not such a simple solution. Nor will never be. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 84 of 107 27 February 2012 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
It doesn't bexause Russia lost the Cold War. Linguistic features do not play any role. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Itikar Groupie Italy Joined 4670 days ago 94 posts - 158 votes Speaks: Italian* | Message 85 of 107 27 February 2012 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't think so. For Greek and Aramaic it didn't go that way, and at the end I think Russian can join them too. ;) Edited by Itikar on 27 February 2012 at 4:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4702 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 86 of 107 28 February 2012 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think we can agree that, while money and economy might be a factor, there are other reasons to study languages as well.
Personally, I stumbled over Japanese when my younger son wanted to watch Japanese anime and there were no more German dubbed episodes, so we watched subbed anime on the net. I fell in love with the sound and serenity of the language. One might argue that, if Japan wasn't so big in the animation industry, this might not have happened. That might be true. Then again, I had my share of foreign language exposure (living in Germany, with many foreigners all over the place, makes you hear a lot of Turkish, Chinese, Russian and what have you) which didn't cause me to love those languages. I might add that, as a German, there's no economical reason whatsoever to learn Japanese. We are just as wealthy and all the problems that may arise when living there due to cultural differences (among other things) are in no proportion to the financial benefit (which doesn't even exist TBH). At the end of the day, I just fell in love with the beauty of the language, and that's all there is to it. At least in my case. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| skeeterses Senior Member United States angelfire.com/games5Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6619 days ago 302 posts - 356 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, Spanish | Message 87 of 107 29 February 2012 at 5:17am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'll go ahead and chime in a little on the economics thing. Nway is right to a certain point regarding that it does
take money for a country to project its culture, whether it be through producing films or maintaining military bases in desolate countries. But now, here's the catch on this GDP thing. Knowing a "big language" like English or Chinese will only get you a small slice of the action at best, since there's literally millions of other outsiders competing to get in. It's only a little better with the sciences and engineering. Take the chemistry example. To get your foot in the door of a science career, you have to get a Masters degree. To have a successful career and be more than a little lab helper, you have to get a Ph.D or a post-Doc. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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