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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 105 of 107 22 August 2012 at 8:54pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes, but in Latin, there's at least a system for it (like v-perfect, s-perfect, reduplication, etc.). In Russian, it's just irregular. There is no system at all for infinitives and present stems. Of course, there are very regular verbs like читать, делать, or любить, but with other verbs, there seems to be total mayhem. And, as I said, you can't even see the conjugational type (и or е) from the infinitive -- as opposed to Latin where there is -are, -ēre, -īre, and -ĕre (and some irregular verbs like posse, velle, or esse). The only ambiguity is between consonantic and ĭ-conjugation. In Russian, there is -ать, -еть, -ить, -уть, -ыть, -чь, and -ти, and none of them really indicates a conjugational type. Okay, yes, the verbs ending in -чь are all irregular in the same way and verbs in -ать are mostly е-conjugation and verbs in -ить и-conjugation. If I may recur to German verbs: Their present tense is perfectly regular, except for 10 or so irregular verbs (mostly preterite-present verbs) and umlaut in strong verbs: lieben --> ich liebe, gehen --> ich gehe, geben --> ich gebe, machen --> ich mache, sehen --> ich sehe, tun --> ich tue, etc. The past tense is regular as well, except for strong verbs. German doesn't even have different conjugation classes! I wished it would be that easy in Russian. So, I repeat my statement: Russian verbs are irregular as hell. And if you don't like that, I might change it to: Russian verbs have so many rules and exceptions that it's like hell. Edited by Josquin on 22 August 2012 at 9:24pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4669 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 106 of 107 23 August 2012 at 10:42am | IP Logged | ||
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But German has other things, unpredictable gender of nouns. :(
Russian gender is easy for me, since in 99% of cases it's either predictable from the noun ending and/or it's the same gender as in my language (Croatian). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 107 of 107 23 August 2012 at 3:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, of course, but gender is another cup of tea. I was just comparing the verbal systems and said that Russian had an irregular one. I didn't intend to say German was somehow "better" than Russian. As a matter of fact, I like complex and irregular languages, because they are more challenging. Otherwise, I would never have started with Russian in the first place and I wouldn't have studied languages like Latin, Greek, Icelandic, or Gaelic. Edited by Josquin on 23 August 2012 at 3:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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